Alternative headline: DNC keeps platforming paleoconservatives 🤦
Just because Trump is a bridge too far for them doesn’t mean they’re not the enemy when it comes to everything except presidential endorsements.
The DNC promoting these Dick Cheney-style ghouls is moving the media Overton window further right to the enormous detriment of everyone who’s to the left of Ronald “sledgehammer to the economy to benefit the rich” Reagan.
a house fire they helped light and fueled, before they retired and suddenly started speaking out, totally not in an attempt to angle for a speaking head job at some network where they can play both sides.
call me crazy, but I don’t particularly want an arsonists help with regards to putting out fire.
Problem is, they still want to splash gasoline everywhere because they pretend they like the smell while they own the place that sells it, and deny having to do anything with creating the current problem at all.
We don’t need them. If they stop alienating the left and everyone else who’s vehemently against genocide, the people in the ideological sliver between the most conservative Democrats and the least conservative MAGA cult members become electorally irrelevant.
If they stop alienating the left and everyone else who’s vehemently against genocide, the people in the ideological sliver between the most conservative Democrats and the least conservative MAGA cult members become electorally irrelevant.
While I wish that were true, it’s simply not, there’s still more movable “moderates” in between Democrats and MAGA for them to matter massively electorally, and still far far too few leftist Democratic voters for them to have to listen to.
I’ve only ever heard this as a talking point but never backed up with any data. There are hundreds of thousands of voters to win in key states by forcing Israel to agree to a permanent ceasefire with conditional military aid that requires them to abide by International Law
It’s certainly not far more unless you’re only looking at Republicans.
From the poll:
Republicans and Republican leaners are more supportive of providing Israel with military aid than are Democrats and Democratic leaners. Half of Republicans favor military aid, with about three-in-ten saying they strongly favor it.
A plurality of Democrats (43%) oppose providing Israel with military aid for the war against Hamas, while a quarter support it.
U.S. adults are divided about whether Biden is favoring the Israelis too much (22%), favoring the Palestinians too much (16%) or striking the right balance (21%) on the Israel-Hamas war. Fully 40% say they are not sure.
While overall views have changed little since we last asked this question in November and December 2023, the share of adults under 30 who feel Biden tilts too far toward Israel has risen 9 percentage points, from 27% to 36%.
But this poll does not discuss Americans view on a ceasefire. If you poll democrats and independents in swing states on that issue you get the following:
An April 2024 poll of likely voters across the U.S. found that 30% strongly supported withholding military funds to Israel until the attacks on Gaza stop; another 25% somewhat supported that conditional aid policy.
Below we asked all respondents what minimum combination of policies would secure (for non-Biden voters) or solidify (for Biden voters) a vote for Biden for President. A third or more voters in every state except Minnesota said a lasting ceasefire was among the minimum policies that would be needed to secure solidify their votes
Although voters are split on whether they approve or disapprove of Biden’s handling of the war, the vast majority (≥ ~75%) across all states still support an immediate and permanent ceasefire. Only a small minority of voters, from 11.2% to 16.1% in Minnesota and Pennsylvania, respectively, strongly approve of the President’s approach on Gaza. Of those, the vast majority in each state (≥64%) strongly support an immediate and permanent ceasefire. That is to say, a change in approach would not lose those votes, but staying on the current path risks doing so.
Yeah, excuse me if I don’t jump for joy at the thought of a cease fire that Netanyahu has no intention of honoring if, against all odds, he signs it.
What’s needed is for the US and other countries to stop supplying weapons to commit genocide with, at the very least, and preferably treat the fascist apartheid regime like they treated that of South Africa.
The DNC promoting these Dick Cheney-style ghouls is moving the media Overton window further right to the enormous detriment of everyone who’s to the left of Ronald “sledgehammer to the economy to benefit the rich” Reagan.
It’s absolutely insane to see folks who would have gleefully endorsed Project 2025 any other day of the week show up to say “Donald Trump was mean to me, personally, so I’m supporting Kamala Harris this year.”
good lets bring back that republican party so congress can be about debating boring things like tax policy instead of having them fight to ban books, ban trans people, or ban immigrants.
Lord. I miss the days when I could say “I think the Republican candidate will meaningfully weaken American influence and moral authority on the world stage, damage our national finances in service to business elites, and cause needless deaths both at home and abroad through reckless and callous policy” instead of “Jesus fucking Christ, this is just outright, directly stated fascism, why are all of you ghouls still voting [R]???”
I remember when I was crazy for suspecting evil of the GOP, am I crazy now father? Actually I’m just kidding, my dad hasn’t been for Republicans since they shit themselves upon seeing a black man in the Whites Only House
Sadly at this point I’ll settle for anyone left of “Hunting the homeless for sport with brand new Assault Rifle 15s from the most recent school shooting”
I completely get where you’re coming from, but that’s how it got this bad in the first place: by people always settling for the lesser evil and never demanding anything more from their representatives than “at least be marginally better than the other side” of the broken and corrupt dichotomy.
Alternative headline: DNC keeps platforming paleoconservatives 🤦
Just because Trump is a bridge too far for them doesn’t mean they’re not the enemy when it comes to everything except presidential endorsements.
The DNC promoting these Dick Cheney-style ghouls is moving the media Overton window further right to the enormous detriment of everyone who’s to the left of Ronald “sledgehammer to the economy to benefit the rich” Reagan.
I mean yes but Jesus Christ they’re helping us douse an active house fire, this is all hands on deck.
a house fire they helped light and fueled, before they retired and suddenly started speaking out, totally not in an attempt to angle for a speaking head job at some network where they can play both sides.
call me crazy, but I don’t particularly want an arsonists help with regards to putting out fire.
Problem is, they still want to splash gasoline everywhere because they pretend they like the smell while they own the place that sells it, and deny having to do anything with creating the current problem at all.
We don’t need them. If they stop alienating the left and everyone else who’s vehemently against genocide, the people in the ideological sliver between the most conservative Democrats and the least conservative MAGA cult members become electorally irrelevant.
While I wish that were true, it’s simply not, there’s still more movable “moderates” in between Democrats and MAGA for them to matter massively electorally, and still far far too few leftist Democratic voters for them to have to listen to.
I’ve only ever heard this as a talking point but never backed up with any data. There are hundreds of thousands of voters to win in key states by forcing Israel to agree to a permanent ceasefire with conditional military aid that requires them to abide by International Law
Here’s the most recent data from Pew
Far more Americans still lean Pro-Israel.
It’s certainly not far more unless you’re only looking at Republicans.
From the poll:
But this poll does not discuss Americans view on a ceasefire. If you poll democrats and independents in swing states on that issue you get the following:
You say “genocide is bad”, but can you also say with me “islam is bad”?
Not that it has anything to do with any current genocide but sure, Islam IS bad. Not any worse than Christianity is, though. 🤷
literally nobody has done more in government to push for a ceasefire than biden and harris…
Yeah, excuse me if I don’t jump for joy at the thought of a cease fire that Netanyahu has no intention of honoring if, against all odds, he signs it.
What’s needed is for the US and other countries to stop supplying weapons to commit genocide with, at the very least, and preferably treat the fascist apartheid regime like they treated that of South Africa.
It’s absolutely insane to see folks who would have gleefully endorsed Project 2025 any other day of the week show up to say “Donald Trump was mean to me, personally, so I’m supporting Kamala Harris this year.”
They’re not your fucking friends.
good lets bring back that republican party so congress can be about debating boring things like tax policy instead of having them fight to ban books, ban trans people, or ban immigrants.
Lord. I miss the days when I could say “I think the Republican candidate will meaningfully weaken American influence and moral authority on the world stage, damage our national finances in service to business elites, and cause needless deaths both at home and abroad through reckless and callous policy” instead of “Jesus fucking Christ, this is just outright, directly stated fascism, why are all of you ghouls still voting [R]???”
I remember when I was crazy for suspecting evil of the GOP, am I crazy now father? Actually I’m just kidding, my dad hasn’t been for Republicans since they shit themselves upon seeing a black man in the Whites Only House
Sadly that republican party is just the current democratic party
I remember when it was safe to completely ignore politics…
Not really, but I would love to go back in time and prevent the election of Reagan and Nixon
Sadly at this point I’ll settle for anyone left of “Hunting the homeless for sport with brand new Assault Rifle 15s from the most recent school shooting”
I completely get where you’re coming from, but that’s how it got this bad in the first place: by people always settling for the lesser evil and never demanding anything more from their representatives than “at least be marginally better than the other side” of the broken and corrupt dichotomy.