• kippinitreal@lemmy.world
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    No. All labour, including cops, need unions.

    I think police unions becoming class un-conscious is the problem. They have become tools of the capitalists who hav Dissolve them and make them better.

    Edit: I’m speaking for police forces in general. Slave owner roots of American police departments would warrant dissolving EVERYTHING and building a fairer system, including unions.

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      All labour, including cops

      Cops aren’t labour. They’re the rabid guard dogs of the elites.

      I think police unions becoming class un-conscious is the problem

      Nah. They’re fully conscious of which class they serve, to the detriment of everyone else.

      Dissolve them

      Yes.

      make them better

      Not really possible as long as they consist of cops.

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        I think unions are fundamentally for collective bargaining against consolidated powers typically capital. Police unions in the USA have been bastardized to favor their own and resisting change to a power structure that helps them, Aka losing class consciousness.

        Let’s say the police departments started mistreating individual cops, overworking them and sending them into dangerous situations without proper training (hint: as they do currently), how so the individuals being mistreated fight back?

        What I see in America is a concerted effort to construct a Us vs Them narrative in the police force. This includes dehumanizing the “policed” and protecting their own at all costs. This is essentially losing class consciousness, where a fellow working person is seen as fundamentally evil, and the real reason its so bad for cops.

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        “Not in all countries”

        Outside of Murikan movies slave history & current media reports (UK included) Im glad that “cop” doesn’t mean the same type of people oppressive force it does in Anglo systems in places I lived.