If you find the idea that queer people have the right to exist to be too much of an echo chamber for you, then that’s a bit telling.
“But the bias!”
Maybe it’s just me, but if I wanted to know what was going on in the queer communtiy, I would say queer people are the best people to listen to. Just like how if I wanted to learn about the struggles of bring black or a woman, I would consider them the go to source. I wouldn’t go to the people causing the problems. Like I wouldn’t go to David Duke to learn about what black people go through. Or Andew Tate on how to treat women.
In those case, the article calls out the lies from the sources you say we wouldn’t take, so of course I’m not gonna listen to them. Because they’re not just biased. They’re lies. In this case, it’s things such as tuck swimwear being sold to kids. That was heavily reported on, despite being false.
To help explain what a bias actually is, think of it this way:
One article says Bill punched Jim. Billy is a bully. We have someone saying they saw it.
The other article says Bill did not punch Jim. He is fine. We have the video to prove it.
Now, both do have a bias. Yes. One says he’s a bully, the other says he’s not.
But one of them makes a claim, says they have someone who saw it, but it turns out it was a lie.
So one of these is a bias, one of these is a lie. It’s slander.
Should we find articles without a bias? Arguably. But for starters, if the non-biased articles agree with the biased article and all the facts, and they do show with the same video that Bill did in fact not punch Jim, then I would argue the bias isn’t the issue. If Bill didn’t punch Jim, then there’s no real reason to say he’s a bully.
Similarly, it is a fact that right wing news sources lied about the swimwear. And they have an anti-LGBTQ+ bias. But we know it was a lie.
So when an article calls it out and has a bias that trans people are fine, there’s no reason to beleive its not. And the bias that the right are being bigoted ans trying to take away the rights from trans people then becomes less of a bias and more of just facts.
So we can find another source for this, but when they simply just list the facts, it will only back up this article.
So you have fascist Republicans on the far right
And somewhat fascist democrats who are right of center
Guess as a leftist I’m good then. Seems to me like we have a right wing problem. But even then, only one of the parties is pushing for genocide
It is a protected class
The first amendment is the thing you’re missing with all of this. People can discriminate against gay people. But only if it takes away their first amendment. The courts ruled that art should not be forced. So they don’t have to serve gay people. But if someone is selling a car, that has nothing to do with art.
So if I want my freedoms as a gay man I should just move? Rather than us just being better? It’s cool to praise the US and our freedoms, but the second we see the opposite we just tell people to leave, and yet we are supposed to be the good guys? Lol
Well we don’t use it for just anyone who has any different opinion. So the problem right there is solved. We do use it frequently. But that’s when we see thing like homo/transphobia(Nazis hated queer people), antisemitism(another group Nazis hated), racism(also Nazis), and sexism(once again, Nazis). There seems to be a pretty fucking large overlap of what modern day Republicans preach and what the Nazis preached. Including as of lately “eradicating transgenderness” and “erasing communities.” As well as the amount of terrorist attacks that ha e actively been encouraged.
So if you would prefer we could just call everyone bigot, since that includes them all and not everyone personally considers themselves a Nazi, but I hardly see the difference between a Nazi, the KKK, Proud Boys, 3%ers, etc, when they all preach the exact same stuff. At that point you’re not arguing anything except semantics. It’s like the whole “race realism” thing. It’s racism, but more palatable to racists who think the name racist is mean, but not the mentality.
I guess another way to look at it is as people keep bringing up, but there’s a German saying about this. If you have a table with 9 people and 1 Nazi, you have 10 Nazis.
This also doesn’t change the actual argument being made, which is about a forum that is open. In which case, you do get Nazis. Like not even what we mean when we call Nazis as Nazis, but people who call themselves Nazis. We have seen that over and over and over. You get Nazis, and you get pedophiles. Then everyone else starts to leave and you are stuck with Nazis and pedophiles.
So once again, I get the mentality behind it. In a lot of ways I would love a site like that. But it’s also a little different for those of us that are having people call for our deaths on a regular basis.
5 rich people sign a paper saying it’s cool if they die in a shitty submarine, they do, and we spent millions trying to find them.
But people actually need help and we could improve our society and economy in numerous ways, and we can’t do that.
I hate this place so God damn much.
If me and you are having a discussion, but the topic is the fact that I want to kill you, how long will it take before you stop wanting to talk to me?
“But it’s just words!”
Well, we know that’s not true, so how long would it take before you stopped wanting to be around me?
Oh, also I promote pediphelia. Just as a little fun thing. Just the casual story of raping kids.
I get the appeal. I do. I 1000% do. I get it. But also fuck Nazis. I don’t want to be around them. I’m gay, so they don’t want to be around me. Fuck pedophiles. I don’t want to be around them. So if a site is filled with Nazis and pedophiles, I’m gonna go to a different site. Now you have an echo chamber of Nazis and pedophiles. The thing you wanted to avoid. But you’re stuck with only talking to Nazis and pedophiles.
Meanwhile the bubble without Nazis is a really large bubble encompassing everything except Nazis and pedophiles.
Which hardly looks like a bubble.
Not only is it interesting, and not only is it something they could have left for later
But why would someone be upset at a quick 10 second mental break from work? Take a second to breath. Let out some stress. You didn’t send them a novel and require them to read it then and there and throw all of their work off. It was just a quick little micro break.
And it’s gonna suck for most of us in a lot of ways. Like I moved up north partially because of politics back in 2014. Now some are eventually gonna follow and move up here as well. Plus, I can’t afford a house. A lot of people can’t afford one. But when more and more people come, we won’t have enough. Unless we see some real, meaningful changes in the way we handle housing, it’s gonna be a shit show.
I was talking to my mom back in I think 2020 and the subject of the cost of a home came up. I told her how much they are here, and she said me and my boyfriend should move near her and some other family in St Louis. While I would love to be near family, I’m gay. I’m not moving to a red state. And I’m not looking to buy a house I will eventually need to abandon with no one buying it. That’s a lot of money to just lose.