Kieselguhr [none/use name]

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  • The Western narrative starts to shift closer to reality, maybe?

    nevermind:

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    In return for Mr Zelensky embracing this grim truth, Western leaders need to make his overriding war aim credible by ensuring that Ukraine has the military capacity and security guarantees it needs. If Ukraine can convincingly deny Russia any prospect of advancing further on the battlefield, it will be able to demonstrate the futility of further big offensives. Whether or not a formal peace deal is signed, that is the only way to wind down the fighting and ensure the security on which Ukraine’s prosperity and democracy will ultimately rest.

    This will require greater supplies of the weaponry Mr Zelensky is asking for. Ukraine needs long-range missiles that can hit military targets deep in Russia and air defences to protect its infrastructure. Crucially, it also needs to make its own weapons. Today, the country’s arms industry has orders worth $7bn, only about a third of its potential capacity. Weapons firms from America and some European countries have been stepping in; others should, too. The supply of home-made weapons is more dependable and cheaper than Western-made ones. It can also be more innovative. Ukraine has around 250 drone companies, some of them world leaders—including makers of the long-range machines that may have been behind a recent hit on a huge arms dump in Russia’s Tver province.

    The second way to make Ukraine’s defence credible is for Mr Biden to say Ukraine must be invited to join NATO now, even if it is divided and, possibly, without a formal armistice. Mr Biden is known to be cautious about this. Such a declaration from him, endorsed by leaders in Britain, France and Germany, would go far beyond today’s open-ended words about an “irrevocable path” to membership.

    This would be controversial, because NATO’s members are expected to support each other if one of them is attacked. In opening a debate about this Article 5 guarantee, Mr Biden could make clear that it would not cover Ukrainian territory Russia occupies today, as with East Germany when West Germany joined NATO in 1955; and that Ukraine would not necessarily garrison foreign NATO troops in peacetime, as with Norway in 1949.

    NATO membership entails risks. If Russia struck Ukraine again, America could face a terrible dilemma: to back Ukraine and risk war with a nuclear foe; or refuse and weaken its alliances around the world. However, abandoning Ukraine would also weaken all of America’s alliances—one reason China, Iran and North Korea are backing Russia. Mr Putin is clear that he sees the real enemy as the West. It is deluded to think that leaving Ukraine to be defeated will bring peace.

    Indeed, a dysfunctional Ukraine could itself become a dangerous neighbour. Already, corruption and nationalism are on the rise. If Ukrainians feel betrayed, Mr Putin may radicalise battle-hardened militias against the West and NATO. He managed something similar in Donbas where, after 2014, he turned some Russian-speaking Ukrainians into partisans ready to go to war against their compatriots. For too long, the West has hidden behind the pretence that if Ukraine set the goals, it would decide what arms to supply. Yet Mr Zelensky cannot define victory without knowing the level of Western support. By contrast, the plan outlined above is self-reinforcing. A firmer promise of NATO membership would help Mr Zelensky redefine victory; a credible war aim would deter Russia; NATO would benefit from Ukraine’s revamped arms industry. Forging a new victory plan asks a lot of Mr Zelensky and Western leaders. But if they demur, they will usher in Ukraine’s defeat. And that would be much worse









  • You are a moron.

    But you would be 50% less insufferable if you were actually completely, utterly ashamed about voting for the Dems, and spent 100% of your commenting energy scolding mainstream liberals for giving absolute dogshit neocon candidates in their purported fight against fascism.

    But you are not ashamed, you are shamelessly scolding leftists who don’t want to vote for people committing genocide right now

    You are absolutely out of your depth here and should just fuck back off to your radlib bubble

    We are not going to convince you, since you are a clown, and you are clearly ineffective when you try to argue against actual leftists









  • Kieselguhr [none/use name]@hexbear.nettoMemes@lemmy.mlgood morning fellow americanskis
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    The fundamental problem with leftists is that we’re mostly smug assholes who refuse to work with anyone we disagree with,

    I’m not American - I’m saying you are worse than what liberals say Russian and Chinese are

    anyone we disagree with,

    • Economically they are neoliberals - leftists are opposed to neoliberalism
    • Their foreign policy is brinkmanship, genocide and bombing allied infrastructure

    This is 0/2- how are they not enemies rather than “someone I disagree with”?

    until that changes we will remain completely irrelevant.

    You will remain irrelevant because you’d vote D whatever they do. It seems like you represent the Dems as a project whatever they do, rather than they represent the voter base, earning votes.
    Which is ass backwards.



  • Kieselguhr [none/use name]@hexbear.nettoMemes@lemmy.mlgood morning fellow americanskis
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    3 months ago

    or having the possibility of making better choices in the future

    How’s that working out for you if you look at the past few elections? Did you manage to push Biden left? Have they prosecuted the American war criminals? How far is Genocide Joe from your ideal? Is Copmala gonna be better, improving material circumstances?
    Can’t you see that neoliberalism had literally the opposite effect - pushed everything even more right and extreme?

    Americans have this weird view of Russians and Putinists and liberals think that the Chinese are a brainwashed hivemind— but you look crazy from the outside when you argue for voting Mussolini against Hitler.
    Democrats supported genocide and their brinkmanship with Russia got us closer to Nuclear Armageddon, fuck y’all