

The original comment I responded to was saying “we don’t want China to win because it’s very repressive”. If the west turns out to be at least as repressive, this argument disappears, which was my entire point.


The original comment I responded to was saying “we don’t want China to win because it’s very repressive”. If the west turns out to be at least as repressive, this argument disappears, which was my entire point.


I’ve directed the Master’s and Bachelor’s thesis of several Chinese students here in Europe, and literally all of them except one have returned to China because life there is better. The one who stayed, personally told me that he used to be Chinese opposition, but after some years in Europe seeing the shitshow we have and the impending rise of fascism, he’s not as critical of the Chinese government anymore.
Your sample is biased: you’ve only spoken to the Chinese émigrés, so you’re suffering from survivor bias.


Hah, you’re so freaking original, mate! I bet nobody ever here heard of that one!
But sure: on June 3rd, 1989, after weeks of protests in Beijing (not in all of China), some violent western-funded protestors murdered some PLA soldiers. Violence ensued (funnily enough outside Tiananmen Square, despite what western state propaganda tells you) and some people died in clashes between police/military and protestors. Ultimately, a western-backed colour revolution was averted, and thankfully the Chinese government still exists, providing the world with 95ish% of the solar photovoltaic production :)


Unlike western media, famously owned by altruistic people like sociopath Palantir collaborator Zuckerberg, or Twitter being owned by a literal sieg-heiling Nazi.
You can see the censorship by opening Russia Today in the EU and seeing how all Russian media has been banned, such freedom of speech and anti censorship in the west, threatening to ban Tiktok because it’s not controlled by American corpos! Surely no censorship on Reddit either or YouTube!! It’s literally all projection


China has higher government approval rates than any western country. The whole “Chinese surveillance state” myth stems from western media propaganda. Go ask a Chinese person about the dreaded “social credit score” system and they literally don’t know what it is, it’s just western lies. The west has literal journalist prisoners like Assange, the UK is enjailing people for supporting Palestine, and heroes like Snowden had to migrate to other countries due to political persecution for revealing the depth of the western surveillance state. It’s all projection with China.
Because we are US vassal states without democracy or political independence. I don’t see how you honestly believe that Spanish or Portuguese people, on the opposite corner of the continent, would democratically want to go further into defunding hospitals to buy more bombs while Europe happily collaborates in genocide in Palestine.
Charity is the opposite of socialism. Socialism ensures that everyone works and everyone can sustain themselves, charity is what happens in capitalism. I don’t want people to rely on the good will of others and on motherfucking food stamps to survive.
Didn’t the pro-Russian candidate in Romania get removed from elections? Not the most openly democratic example in my opinion.
the remaining 51% can form an alliance to shut them out of government
This can happen with leftist parties too, and as a matter of fact we see it happening in France, with the most voted party being "cordon sanitaire"d. Again, there is no functional democracy if the policy applied over 15 different countries, regardless of party elected, is indistinguishable.
And why does that matter? If we see uniform policy results in the EU-wide, regardless of coalition in power, where’s the democracy?
Veganism is a luxury of modern times
Plenty of vegans in India for centuries, not luxurious or modern. You can say that being vegan is hard in modern meat-oriented society, but then turn your critique towards the system and not towards the people telling you to go vegan. And I say this as a non-vegan.

Order a bidet attachment for your toilet, wash your fucking ass!
Cuba has a higher life expectancy than the US. Just because “US=rich” doesn’t mean that poor people in the US aren’t having a fucking hard time, massive inequality leads to this. Yesterday I saw a reel about a food program called “ugly potato day” and +15k people queued for hours to get some produce… In a single city… The USA is fucked.
Like, sure, colonial regions have it worse, but the root of the problem is the same: western capitalism fucked their lives.
The problem isn’t the two party system. The “perfectly democratic” EU countries are electing fascists en-masse, and when they’re not, the socialdemocrats that replace them apply similar policy. There is no EU country free from austerity policy, rising military budgets, undermining of worker rights, rising of retirement age, support to the genocidal Israeli entity and complete inaction in terms of affordability of housing, energy and food. The problem is capitalism, not “first past the post” or other technicalities of electoral systems. They all produce the same outcomes, so the root of the problem is deeper.

Pro-Palestine and against genocide is kinda the same though

This is absolutely ridiculous. Dick Cheney was a literal war criminal and responsible for the murder of hundreds of thousands if not millions of humans. This is a moment to reflect on the murderous nature of the USA empire and to never make the mistake of letting US politicians do similar shit ever again.

Mamdani literally just got elected, what the hell are you talking about? There were no “American leftists” sabotaging Mamdani the way you claim they did to Kamala. Maybe, just maybe, when you run a humane, electable and progressive candidate, you win elections? Maybe running ghoul after ghoul and war criminal after war criminal as an alternative to Trump isn’t the best strategy?

without outright endorsing what he did
Kamala saying that he was a great public servant is a spit in the face to the millions of people whose lives were lost and ruined by Dick Cheney’s ghoulish and murderous legacy. No civility with war criminals.

She never was a fantastic choice, and the proof for that is that Trump is president. Had she been a fantastic choice, people would have voted for her. But sure, keep blaming all the voters for the Democrat inability to place someone remotely humane and electable instead of Ms. “We love Cheney and the US needs to have the most lethal armed forces in the world”.
It’s crazy to me that, after the resounding victory by a progressive that we’ve seen two days ago, you keep blaming the voters. As soon as someone remotely progressive appeared in an election, people went to vote for him in droves. Mamdani is a literal Muslim millennial, hardly the most appreciated demographic in the USA, and yet he smashed the opponents despite constant smear campaigns. Maybe there’s a lesson or two you could learn from that?

Gaddafi got murdered because NATO promoted radical militias and bombed Libya, though.
The original comment I responded to was comparing the west to China and saying that the reason why China shouldn’t win is because it’s more repressive. I explained how that’s not the case, so me comparing to the west is relevant in this instance.
I dont quite understand your second paragraph, care to explain?