Venat [he/him, any]

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  • The situation appears to be an attempt to redirect the narrative away from Israeli football fans being provocative. The counternarrative being presented is that these incidents are indicators that Europeans, the Dutch, and the residential Arab & Muslim populations of Europe are hostile to Jewish people.

    Promoting the notion of Zionism that Jewish people are inherently unsafe in Europe, and that any current “bigotry” is not really European but an import of MENA immigrants, and ultimately the price of tolerance by these liberal democracies.

    There’s plenty of video evidence denying the narrative there, but that doesn’t let the press stop them.





  • I don’t know, that thread looks like ignorance being replaced by knowledge and context; it looks like deprograming of past propaganda despite any detractors using the old messaging, cliches, slogans, and talking points. The discussion there genuinely seems to be earnest and unindulgent of Zionism and its talking points, with corrective information and argument dispelling the impressions people once had about Israel and Zionism.

    I think this marks a turning point where people no longer regard Israel as sacred, and are beginning to see - and entirely due to Israel’s own open, brazen, and genocidal actions and rhetoric following October 7th 2023 - Israel as what it is as defined by its own actions, and not its impression.




  • I’ve seen a lot of articles and youtube videos about how this war triggered Israel’s death throes, and the parallels between Israel and apartheid South Africa & Rhodesia, but those media which highlighted the internal contradictions of Israel, its collapsing economy and international standing, often overlook how desperate the US is to have a satellite state in the West Asia enough to brazenly establish its support for Israel.

    All this, despite the damage to US prestige and diplomatic credibility (notwithstanding that the US state does not nor needs to care about internal dissident or crisis) because the US can brute force its support and suffer little to no economic or political repercussions.

    Israel is a nuclear powered state with very powerful supporters in the US and Europe, as part of a symbiotic relationship these powers have with each other, to ensure the economic and political dominance of the larger political community known as the “West”.

    My larger concern is what Norman Finkelstein has been saying recently: Israel has defeated Hamas in Gaza by destroying Gaza itself. Therefore, the probability that Israel has the power and support needed to enact its depraved agenda of ethnic cleansing and genocide, and survive its repercussions on the world stage for a decade before it goes back to the status quo of pre October 7th, is a very plausible future.

    Israel has managed to pursue this for over a year now.