half_giraffe [comrade/them]

What part of “uncritical support for the DPRK in its heroic struggle to liberate occupied Korea from the genocidal American empire” do you think is a joke exactly?

who are the main political actors

And, if applicable, some sort of chad to virgin-cuck rating of them

think a lot of people take issue with the framing of it all as an artificial coup without popular support because that implies there’s no one in Ukraine who wanted… to be in the EU and aligned with the US.

I think that implication mistakeningly conflates the protests with the resulting coup. The protests had real popular energy behind them and spotlit grassroots leaders (until the western-backed literal Nazis took center stage). The coup pushed those people and their interests aside in favor of whoever Victoria Nuland favored.

None of this refutes what I argued above, that the protests were quickly taken over by right wing groups propped up by the West, with the new government handpicked by the state department:

That probably would have been more convincing if I didn’t personally know people who took part in the revolution and then fought Russia,

Cool are they happy with Victoria Nuland selecting their government?

or if Zelensky didn’t have sky high popular support,

I haven’t seen an approval poll inside of Ukraine for a while but the guy banned opposition parties so it’s not like you’d have any other political option at the moment lol.

or if he wasn’t Jewish.

Seriously very funny to pretend like a Jewish president wipes out the neo-Nazi reality of the Azov battalion.

the insults are just to amuse myself, and because you deserve them.

Whatever gets you off then, I guess.

but how are you going to then shit on an extremely popular people’s movement that ousts the entrenched power system?

It would be great if Euromaiden was an actual popular revolution that turned control over to the people, but any legitimate popular energy was hijacked by western-backed right wing forces. This is evident by the fact that the grassroots protest leaders where shut out of the new government to make space for neo-Nazis handpicked the US state department (you can hear Victoria Nuland say “fuck the EU” around 10 mins into this video before selecting the new Ukrainian cabinet).

And hey, I too used to be a smug liberal who looked down upon everyone who wasn’t in lock step with US propaganda, but if you’re trying to convince people of something I’d recommend you don’t bookend every comment with reddit-ass insults to people’s intelligence.

It’s an article literally saying that “leftists can push Biden to the left” while pointing to these accomplishments as proof:

[Biden’s administration] embraced massive government intervention to stave off the worst economic impacts, including handing millions of families monthly checks (by expanding the child tax credit), giving all kids in public schools free meals, boosting unemployment insurance and extending health coverage to millions.

All of those policies were temporary and have now expired. Truly the most progressive president since LBJ.