Also this is basically Russian Patsoc // Nazbol-Lite // Strasser-Lite and by popular vote this should be on SReactionariesS instead of SUltrasS

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      Slavic culture is relatively homophobic

      Yeah more or less, it has its history and roots to the orthodox church, id ask Russians to consider the infulence and historical context as to the structures of society with the Church and how it infulences social ideology towards LGBT+ comrades. It was beaten into them with serfdom and abject slavery with repeating famine for 100’s of years, sending them into a deep dark age that there grandfathers fought and died to free themselves from the shackles of.

      The issue was the church did not get burned down with the Tsar, it remained and corrupts Russia to this day.

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      How does “culture” excuse such an attitude? Imagine if a certain group said that their version of socialism allowed them to be racist to another group, or misogynistic — it would rightfully be seen as reactionary and deplorable.

      I struggle to see how this is any different. Further, the Presidentium had been working to make strides in LGBT acceptance and rights in the late 70s, to which they were prevented in moving forward by the disaster that was Gorbachev’s administration.

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          Sadly that isn’t true. Gagarin’s first words in space were “The sky is very black. The Earth is blue. Everything can be seen, it is very clear”.

          The line about “No gods” comes from an erroneous attribution of a Khrushchev quote to Gagarin which he supposedly said several days after his trip; however there is no evidence to back this up, which combined with the fact that Gagarin was an active member of the Orthodox Church, makes it unlikely that he ever said anything related to the line.

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        We’re back to the old problem again, however. CPRF’s reactionary sexual politics is used to legitimize NATO passive-aggression, when they toe the UR line as much as needed to maintain electoral support and infiltrate the Russian state apparatus.

        As I’ve shown with Hamas and the Palestinians, Zionists use the traditional or reactionary politics of Palestinian independence organizations to delegitimize them.


        To put it another way, the Orthodox Church was not abolished in the Soviet Union, and the Chinese did not put out foreign religions when they had revolutionary success.

        Critical support is not the same as either uncritical support or opposition: we are not opposing Hamas or CPRF based on their traditionalist gender and sexual attitudes, even if we oppose their traditionalist gender and sexual attitudes.


        If you cannot critically support revolutionary movements, then you cannot be a Marxist, but instead a neo-conservative, because NATO raping your country is the fastest way to get feminist and LGBTQIA+ policies enacted.