• rebelsimile@sh.itjust.works
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    Who are these fucking complete garbage people who can conceive of a world where there are elves, dwarves, Qunari and darkspawn, but trans people are a bridge too far?

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    The best Dragon Age game is still Origins. They’ve had two sequels that haven’t matched the quality of the original. That’s what I would worry about. “Woke” had nothing to do with under-delivery.

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      This is the reality. EA, Ubisoft they both created masterpieces in the past. And they just got worse in every release with their beloved series. The reason is mostly nothing is simple anymore. People want simplicity, not bunch of launchers with additional accounts, always online single player games, tens of DLCs that were suppose to be in the main game.

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        Simplicity to access the content is important, but I’d argue just as important is they’ve tried to make the games simple and appealing to everyone, and they end up not really appealing to anyone. Make an interesting game for the people that want it. Don’t make a game no one wants.

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        Aye, let’s agree to respect each other’s opinion. No matter how wrong yours might be.

        (joking of course, I actually like 2 a lot despite how clearly unfinished and rushed it was, although I really really disliked 3 except for the romances and the character interactions)

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        Really what did you prefer, character, worldbuilding, level design, graphics? I’m genuinely curious. I personally loved Varic in the later games.

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          Yeah I love the second one also. Liked the characters better, I like the contained story, combat was more fun I thought, Etc…

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            Wasn’t it dragon age 2 where the level design got super repetitive though? It felt like they kept reusing the same exact level design in ways that didn’t really make sense.

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              I’ve heard that, and it’s reasonable however I found the level design in the first one could be a little repetitive as well so I thought some of the criticism was somewhat unwarranted.

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        Exactly. Woke is just a symptom not the reason. It’s hard to see a beloved series go bad but people should learn to move on if the game is bad. Just buy the game when it’s good and the problem is solved.

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          “woke” is now just a dog whistle that tells you the person saying it is a bigoted shithead.

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            Aye, it has become another dogwhistle of the weirdo alt right crowd. It’s kinda helpful because whenever you see someone use it unironically, you can just safely block/ban them at no loss of conversation.

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          Not sure I’d consider things like the ability to make your character trans a symptom of anything other than the game being made in the 21st century.

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            I think it’s a symptom because the creators using it to hide their bad games, and the idiots think the game is bad because it’s woke. If the game is already bad, it’s bad. Dragon Age games were always diverse and Dragon Age Origins was epitome of its genre. No one is talking about it being woke.

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              because the creators using it to hide their bad games

              How does this work in particular? The hiding bit? Doesn’t it actually draw attention, considering how many people then spam “OMG SO WOKE!11!!angry-1!!” and so on threads everywhere?

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                They indeed draw attention. It’s basically there is no good or bad advertising from their point. However, this is a fantasy world and people would like to see psychically appealing characters, especially the playable ones. I believe this is the root issue.

                When they have no good material, they start to promote unrelated things to gameplay. This is just one of those things.