• chiliedogg@lemmy.world
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    10 hours ago

    In our electoral system, a vote for a third-party is a waste, and any resources dumped into them is a bigger waste.

    A socialist is going to prefer Harris over Trump, but by voting a third party instead of Democrat they’re effectively supporting Trump. When the election comes down to the wire, they’ll be the ones responsible for a second Trump term.

    This has already happened. People voting for the Green party over Al Gore are the reason we got 8 years of Bush.

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      9 hours ago

      I don’t mind the odd asshole who refuses to play ball, so far up their own ass they think they’re so special and that the spoiler effect doesn’t apply to their vote.

      If that is, they’re silent about it.

      The second they start advocating for others to join them in their stupidity, they go from a harmless idiot to an active threat to democracy, exactly as bad as the MAGAt they likely are.

    • Dragonstaff
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      8 hours ago

      Maybe you can’t speak for what socialists prefer. It’s really odd to say it’s third party voters’ fault your preferred candidate didn’t win rather than your candidates fault they did not attract enough voters.

      If everyone left of the Overton window promise to vote for the Democrats regardless of what policies the Democrats propose, what prevents the Democrats from moving to the right?

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        5 hours ago

        All the other elections every year. The party pays attention to the local and state elections. It matters tremendously. And in the mean time you are improving your local government that effects your everyday life.

        Voting 3rd in the presidential election is a waste if the party hasn’t spent any time building support in existing government structures of power though.

        Does a third party have some special avenue around an obstructionist house and senate that we all haven’t seen so far?

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      8 hours ago

      My vote isn’t a waste. It is counted like any other.

      My vote for psl isn’t support for trump. It doesn’t count towards trumps total. Would you say the people unwilling to vote democrat are more responsible for the events of a trump term than the people who didn’t vote at all? Than the democrat party for running a bad campaign? Than the administrative regime that puts its plans into action?

      You are mistaken about bush v gore. The Supreme Court installed bush and the Florida recount wouldn’t have changed the result because it wasn’t the whole state recount needed to actually flip the electoral college. Gore won Florida but the recount wasn’t in enough precincts to show that. I have no love for the greens, but they’re not why we got bush.