if you know you know and if not I will tell you when there’s confirmation. until then business as usual.
edit: Leader of Hamas Politburo Yahya Sinwar, resistant fighter all his life, was martyred on October 17 while fighting IOF on the frontlines in Rafah, Gaza, AK-47 in his hand. This has been confirmed by the PFLP on al-Mayadeen and so the moratorium is lifted.
The basis for most leftists is not materialism but idealism rooted in the tradition of German imperialist philosophers like Heidegger and Nietzsche, who have been venerated and smoothed over and venerated again and then denied by the intellectual apparatus (the system of universities and journals that decides which ideas are received by anyone) until everyone has their own little micro tradition of Nietzschianism to suit their tastes. Nevermind their actual Nazi beliefs. It didn’t bother Chomsky or Foucault or Zizek.
Of course, nobody engages directly with intellectuals. You don’t even read, or even pay attention to the alt-media which whether branding itself as left or right has roots in the same intellectual tradition, you may occassionally still engage with the Jon Stewart style kids’ entertainment/comedy adaptstion of the same ideas, but you guys get all of your news through the new pyramid scheme of Google and Amazon content creators.
So, it is no trouble for you to deny the entire intellectual tradition. You don’t even know particularly where “your youtube guy everyone should check out” got his ideas, but at least he seems to talk like he knows what he is saying. And since he was likely bred on The Young Turks and other things like that, he is still many steps away from even investigating where he gets his ideas from.
Give me an example of non left nietzchians
I cannot speak for anyone else, but idgaf who is considered an “intellectual” or not. I engage with the material especially of communists who have not only put time into theory, but also put theory into practice, and anti-imperialist material that helps inform on history as well. George Jackson, Lenin, Mao, Parenti, for example.
So far, I’m not really clear on what any of this has to do with lemmygrad. It reads like something a person might say to the podcaster “left” who has no ideological grounding and may never have read a word of communist literature in their life. Though when you get to this part:
You really lose me. Because then it sounds like you’re saying there’s some kind of school of intellectualism people should be valuing over theory and practice, which is strange to say in a place like this, to say the least.
By criticizing an entire community as not completely, thoroughly materialist or not completely read in “intellectual tradition”, they’ve ironically gone completely around and become idealist.
It’s actually a non-criticism, since of course we are supposed to (and strive to) beat the idealism out of us that we grow up with. It’s already a given -everybody knows that.
So it looks like they are just using that and their “intellectual tradition” to pat themselves on the back.
What the fuck are you even talking about? This is incoherent to the point of sounding AI generated.
It’s someone that has this wierd fixation with being anti western leftist, bashing podcast people and twitch streamers and maybe? believes this site is too shitpost-y and that it isn’t purely a theory club or something to that effect
Which,they’re not wrong,per se,but they are very smug about it for some reason,kinda condescending
I dunno,that’s what I got from it anyway, personally they just sound very annoying and act like they know something no one else here does
Again,maybe I misinterpreted them,and I’m willing to retract all my statements,but that’s just the vibe I got
Your account is 19 days old and you’ve replied to multiple people on a self-wanking self-indulgent “muh idealism” in response to an account that had nine “updoots”.
In the interaction you had with a few people, you paint a very big brush. Idealistic, don’t you think?
And yes, I’m being a dick. You’re being smug and just assuming shit about people.
Pretty much what I deduced. I was gonna try to peck at it and see if they had anything of value. They’re obviously not dumb, but stuck in a complete self-walk cycle. “I’m so very pleasant!”
Here let me put the part that is most pertinent to your situation at the forefront so you don’t get all tuckered out after two paragraphs. I’m a real pleasant individual about these things. 😁
What are you even talking about LMAO? Can’t find any other words to express your disgust than “ew new person”?? I’m not assuming anything, I’m making completely obvious observations about the community and you’re taking them personally because they are accurate. You just disagree with my conclusions because you lack the historical context for your own beliefs. Anything else to say or do you just want to rage?
If you want a more complete summation, I could go into the Gonzaloist Maoist flavor of posters around here, but why even waste time on that?
If you don’t remember, that’s fine. It’s not that I’m going “ew new person” it is that you haven’t been around to see what the community actually is if you’re speaking from a standpoint of 1 month. I’m not “disagreeing” with you in that yes, we do have some “idealists” and certainly not a lack of idealism in some places but more often than not something unique I’ve noticed is that a lot of them leave/get tired, genuinely learn some grounding and start digging into theory other than just Marx alone or eventually say some shit and get banned. I can go on a complete summation about that as well.
Speaking from a view of about 19 days, engaging with one or two idealists and then painting the entire website as “The Idealist Forum” (Should I screenshot that too?) sounds, I dunno; a bit short-sighted and an analysis consisting of nothing more than personal reaction without knowledge of previous history.
There’s the self-wanking part, too. “I’m not assuming anything. I’m making completely correct unbiased observations. You’re just mad” (Paraphrasing, of course.) and of course the smugness. Oh and assuming that you being new has to do with anything. I’m “new” too compared to some users.
Lmao, my first Hexbear screenshot, what an honor.
Sorry, wanted to clarify; I didn’t mean to say you were an idealist. Just was using their term for people he was referring to.
No worries. I did not read anything as accusatory, I just got a notification about a reply on a 3 month old comment (the one in the screenshot) and was trying to figure out what was up and found this thread. 😄
I have to say out of all the arguments from authority that exist, account age is probably the funniest. so, you haven’t logged off for a longer period than I have? sit the hell down then
[puts up posters of Zizek and Foucault everywhere] wtf why are people characterizing this place as having an undercurrent of western leftist idealism?? mods? is this bullying?
as for the screenshot, this is what the entire antiwar left does lmao reposting Chris Hedges articles and shit without knowing what they are. regurgitating libertarian talking points about the pandemic (everyone forgot this), posting offbrand versions of Mearshimer, I don’t owe you essays and essays on this subject. you are literally just repeating the libertarian “oh noes my tax dollars” and Israel lobby explanations for imperialism. slowly, it’s shifting. but people like you have fought it every step of the way with your perpetual aggrievement towards people that disagree
I think we banned someone a few weeks ago who made the same ignorant arguments on the assumption that to post something/someone (e.g. Hedges, Mearshimer, etc.) is to fully agree with & endorse something/someone in all ways. Perhaps your new account creation coincides with that ban…