Blumenthal’s anti-vax views are cringe, but i don’t see the problem with this tweet (assuming that it’s true, which feel free to correct me if it’s not) What is worse, having some idiot grifter at your anti-imperialist event, or marching alongside weapons manufacturers who are fueling imperialist wars and a genocide? I’m not saying PSL shouldn’t take part in a march for a good cause just because these evil organizations are trying to co-opt it, but it does seem hypocritical to attack others with guilt by association while doing worse yourself.
I don’t know PSL, I’m not United Statesian, but I found this trying to find pride parade and PSL, Lockheed Martin, etc.
Lockheed Martin was present in 2023 DC Pride Parade, and PSL was present in 2016 DC Pride Parade, but I couldn’t confirm the presence of both simultaneously, nor do I know what was PSL’s purpose in this corporate event.
i don’t see the problem with this tweet (assuming that it’s true, which feel free to correct me if it’s not)
a very cursory search shows Rage Against the War Machine is a Libertarian Party event, which means at best right-wing libertarians and more likely outright fascists who are cynically using calls for liberty to immiserate and oppress minorities. good on the PSL for attacking them.
Just to be a pedantic ass; all libertarians are right-wing. The best of them are the anti-war lot, but I sometimes wonder how, if they were in charge, they would square their own collapsing capitalist economy against doing a little imperialism.
Yeah, from what I’m seeing here I don’t actually see how he’s wrong here. All this shows is that for as bad as we might say Blumenthal is, PSL isn’t really proving themselves any better than him.
for as bad as we might say Blumenthal is, PSL isn’t really proving themselves any better than him
Another way of putting is is that neither is bad, they just aren’t perfect and do or say things that they should be criticized for. I don’t like this tendency that leftists have to immediately want to cut all ties to a person or organization as soon as they perceive a problem. We need to stop doing this moral puritanism thing when it comes to people who, at least in the struggles over the primary contradictions, are on our side. The Grayzone has issues but they are a valuable anti-imperialist outlet. PSL has issues but they are a valuable socialist organization trying to do good work inside the imperial core.
Oh no doubt, I’m not condemning everything Blumenthal ever did or said based on one or two bad positions, and you’re right that there is a tendency to discard everything a person says in this space because they don’t pass every single purity test that we place on them. Hell, one look at OP’s post history shows you that it’s all too easy to just end up spending more time shitting on people who you agree with on 90% of things, rather than those who you agree with 0%.
Blumenthal’s anti-vax views are cringe, but i don’t see the problem with this tweet (assuming that it’s true, which feel free to correct me if it’s not) What is worse, having some idiot grifter at your anti-imperialist event, or marching alongside weapons manufacturers who are fueling imperialist wars and a genocide? I’m not saying PSL shouldn’t take part in a march for a good cause just because these evil organizations are trying to co-opt it, but it does seem hypocritical to attack others with guilt by association while doing worse yourself.
I don’t know PSL, I’m not United Statesian, but I found this trying to find pride parade and PSL, Lockheed Martin, etc.
Lockheed Martin was present in 2023 DC Pride Parade, and PSL was present in 2016 DC Pride Parade, but I couldn’t confirm the presence of both simultaneously, nor do I know what was PSL’s purpose in this corporate event.
a very cursory search shows Rage Against the War Machine is a Libertarian Party event, which means at best right-wing libertarians and more likely outright fascists who are cynically using calls for liberty to immiserate and oppress minorities. good on the PSL for attacking them.
Just to be a pedantic ass; all libertarians are right-wing. The best of them are the anti-war lot, but I sometimes wonder how, if they were in charge, they would square their own collapsing capitalist economy against doing a little imperialism.
Yeah, from what I’m seeing here I don’t actually see how he’s wrong here. All this shows is that for as bad as we might say Blumenthal is, PSL isn’t really proving themselves any better than him.
Another way of putting is is that neither is bad, they just aren’t perfect and do or say things that they should be criticized for. I don’t like this tendency that leftists have to immediately want to cut all ties to a person or organization as soon as they perceive a problem. We need to stop doing this moral puritanism thing when it comes to people who, at least in the struggles over the primary contradictions, are on our side. The Grayzone has issues but they are a valuable anti-imperialist outlet. PSL has issues but they are a valuable socialist organization trying to do good work inside the imperial core.
Oh no doubt, I’m not condemning everything Blumenthal ever did or said based on one or two bad positions, and you’re right that there is a tendency to discard everything a person says in this space because they don’t pass every single purity test that we place on them. Hell, one look at OP’s post history shows you that it’s all too easy to just end up spending more time shitting on people who you agree with on 90% of things, rather than those who you agree with 0%.