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    Idk why I do it but I’m watching lib Dutch talk shows and of course they are about the elections today and it’s expectedly insufferable

  • loathsome dongeater@lemmygrad.ml
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    I wonder how much effect crptobros had in this election. Crypto pacs have spent over a hundred million dollars in ads smearing the candidates they didn’t like. Even Kamala Harris had to get in on the crypto grift when she put forward her weird proposal for protecting black men’s investments in crypto or something like that.

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          Hopefully, but IMO its irrelevant which party controls which branch of government. Nobody’s stopping the collapse train.

          Overall I like that murica’s international standing takes big respectability hits, and less countries are likely to go along with whatever imperialist venture they have.

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          That’s the thing, I’m not even sure if it will be faster than if the Dems got in because they’re historically more prone to warmongering, thus getting the Empire into unwinnable military wars rather than economic ones.

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    Well… dems on Twitter are salivating over a completely flattened Gaza as revenge for their loss. Very cool…

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      Their true-crime fetish spills over into fantasizing about endless brown people being bombed by their own country.

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      Yup. Saw a few of them already saying they look forward to buying property in ethnically cleansed Gaza/West Bank.

      Also this:

      They really cannot keep their masks on can they?

      To them anti-fascism is just a vibe, and social justice causes just an aesthetic, a way to signal team loyalty. When push comes to shove and they get scratched all of their feigned sympathy with the oppressed goes out the window and they become foaming at the mouth Nazis indistinguishable from MAGA.

    • you act like this was not always going to be the response, there level of care was not that high anyway, they where willing to suport a canidate who told people who suported Gaza that now was not the time

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      While you are talking about the destruction of America, is the True God of Christianity, Yahweh, already selling America to social liberals and flooding American with immigrants of mixed-European origin and non-European origin as punishment for their fake school death camp genocides against Indigenous people and their refusal to confess that the Nazi Holocaust is a cheap imitation of the ongoing war crimes by the Western European empires and British diaspora?

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      You mean to say that –

      • switching candidates halfway through the election

      • having your replacement candidate be one of the few people somehow less popular than Biden

      • having said candidate go around openly endorsing genocide

      • telling leftists to ignore this, because genocide isn’t really a big deal

      – isn’t some kind of winning strategy to Unite the Left?

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        The funniest part is that

        • switching candidates halfway through the election
        • having your replacement candidate be one of the few people somehow less popular than Biden

        Isn’t a wholly accurate representation, as she surged after initially replacing Biden because she briefly represented “hope and change” …then she immediately threw all that momentum away to try and win over racist right wingers as a black woman.

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        Just as we might see a President Vance, a President Harris is still possible if the right person dies at the right time.

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    This election has proven that the fearmongering for the Greens by the Democrats was unfounded. The Greens won 0,7% of the vote in Michigan and the Dems there lost by more than a percent

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      Technically, it could also mean that people who didn’t want to vote for a major party abstained from the election altogether (e.g. why wait for an hour and a half if you think not voting at all would accomplish the same thing?)

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        if you think not voting at all would accomplish the same thing

        It doesn’t achieve the same thing though. There are all sorts of narratives that can be made up about why people decided not to vote that the establishment can use to excuse its own horrific behavior. A vote for a third party is a much clearer message, and it helps said third parties build momentum, even if just on a local level.

        On the other hand, i won’t judge people who decided that not voting was the best way for them to protest, i live in Europe and voting is probably easier here, barely takes a couple minutes and we usually have polling stations within walking distance. Which is why personally i still go out and vote, not for a third party because here even the third, fourth and fifth parties are neoliberal warmonger Washington puppets, but for a party that i know will barely get a few thousand votes in my entire state, but at least is anti-imperialist, anti-capitalist and anti-genocide.

        It’s depressing but it is what it is and you have to start somewhere even if small. The most important work we do as communists happens between elections anyway. Elections in a bourgeois dictatorship are the sideshow of the sideshow. Organizing, agitating and educating is what we should be putting the majority of our effort into.

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          Case in point:

          Now i’m not sure if this graphic is accurate, and i’ve seen other reports that put Stein around 20% in this district, but either way it’s a powerful message of what happens when your candidate unapologetically supports and enables a genocide. I wish we could have seen these kinds of results for third parties all across the US, but at least this is a start.