How does voting help? It’s just a dumb question, and I, personally, am not saying people shouldn’t vote. I’m just saying not to act like voting will stop fascism and not voting will enable it, it’s just not that simple
Nobody is saying or thinking that sincerely, but the idea of not voting is like playing a game of chess against facism and refusing to use your Queen.
Nobody thinks voting is the whole solution or the whole problem, and nobody thinks that all of our problems hinge solely on the vote.
Voting doesn’t solve everything and it doesn’t replace hard work. But rationally speaking, in raw terms of time and effort input vs impact output, the low cost of entry of voting simply makes it one of the most impactful things you can do to affect change in America pound-for-pound in terms of effort, period. Change is hard and voting in most places takes less than a hour total. If you tell me you’re trying to fight the good fight but you won’t sacrifice one hour for something with the equivalent punching weight many many times greater than that effort, I will assume you are either an absolute idiot or you’re just here in bad faith.
A non vote is a vote, a vote against an elecotral system that doesn’t work. The fact that said system ignores non voters is a fault in democracy, not in the people.
Now, i can agree with saying “look, this candidate is so much worse that it’s worth it to go even if you don’t like it”
What i don’t agree with is telling people that are OBJECTIVELY right in not wanting to be part of endorsing a genocider that they are like nazis, that the world is gonna crumble because of them.
Maybe if you tried to understand their point of view they might change their minds. That is the problem with you americans, like good patriarchs everything is a binary and if you do not think the same as me you’re automatically the worst interpretation of my enemy. You yourself might have not beahved like this, and i appreciate it, but most people in these comments automatically assumed that I wouldn’t vote or that I would encourage others to not do it.
I am just saying, stop being so judgemental when you don’t really know people’s reasoning for what they choose to do. People hate this attitude and the DEM party constantly uses it. No wonder they lose when it matters the most.
Non voting is supposed to tell a party that what it does is not working. If the party hasn’t listened in 2016, 2020, and now you can’t blame people who are disillusioned. The dem party refuses to actually fight and instead gives in to the same corpos that fund the republicans. Blame your coward leaders and maybe they’ll actually get good at their job
You’re never going to get an election victory that results in “now our opponent is dead forever. Congratulations you can stop paying attention and don’t have to try anymore”
There is no such thing as a final victory, you lose when you stop trying. No one wins forever.
I’m starting to suspect the anti-vax stuff is just people dressing up their fear of getting a needle, and the anti-electorial stuff is just people dressing up their excuse for why they don’t want to leave the house to run a quick errand.
No, i’m just surrounded by people who don’t know reading comprehension. I never said people shouldn’t vote, i am not the projection of the people you despise, i am my own individual with my own view. Ppl here are talking to me like i am endorsing trump while i am just fucking saying you should also look to yourselves and your methods if you really want to find out why people don’t vote
How does voting help? It’s just a dumb question, and I, personally, am not saying people shouldn’t vote. I’m just saying not to act like voting will stop fascism and not voting will enable it, it’s just not that simple
Yappin. Non answer
You read whatever you want to read.
It would be cool if you supplied coherent thoughts for us to read though, I think that’s why we’re all mocking you so openly.
Your sense of superiority is your downfall
Nobody is saying or thinking that sincerely, but the idea of not voting is like playing a game of chess against facism and refusing to use your Queen.
Nobody thinks voting is the whole solution or the whole problem, and nobody thinks that all of our problems hinge solely on the vote.
Voting doesn’t solve everything and it doesn’t replace hard work. But rationally speaking, in raw terms of time and effort input vs impact output, the low cost of entry of voting simply makes it one of the most impactful things you can do to affect change in America pound-for-pound in terms of effort, period. Change is hard and voting in most places takes less than a hour total. If you tell me you’re trying to fight the good fight but you won’t sacrifice one hour for something with the equivalent punching weight many many times greater than that effort, I will assume you are either an absolute idiot or you’re just here in bad faith.
A non vote is a vote, a vote against an elecotral system that doesn’t work. The fact that said system ignores non voters is a fault in democracy, not in the people.
Now, i can agree with saying “look, this candidate is so much worse that it’s worth it to go even if you don’t like it” What i don’t agree with is telling people that are OBJECTIVELY right in not wanting to be part of endorsing a genocider that they are like nazis, that the world is gonna crumble because of them.
Maybe if you tried to understand their point of view they might change their minds. That is the problem with you americans, like good patriarchs everything is a binary and if you do not think the same as me you’re automatically the worst interpretation of my enemy. You yourself might have not beahved like this, and i appreciate it, but most people in these comments automatically assumed that I wouldn’t vote or that I would encourage others to not do it.
I am just saying, stop being so judgemental when you don’t really know people’s reasoning for what they choose to do. People hate this attitude and the DEM party constantly uses it. No wonder they lose when it matters the most.
Just answer the question honestly.
If you can’t (you can’t) kindly shut the fuck up.
Non voting is supposed to tell a party that what it does is not working. If the party hasn’t listened in 2016, 2020, and now you can’t blame people who are disillusioned. The dem party refuses to actually fight and instead gives in to the same corpos that fund the republicans. Blame your coward leaders and maybe they’ll actually get good at their job
You’re never going to get an election victory that results in “now our opponent is dead forever. Congratulations you can stop paying attention and don’t have to try anymore”
There is no such thing as a final victory, you lose when you stop trying. No one wins forever.
I’m starting to suspect the anti-vax stuff is just people dressing up their fear of getting a needle, and the anti-electorial stuff is just people dressing up their excuse for why they don’t want to leave the house to run a quick errand.
It funny to me that “trying” for you only amounts to voting.
I do more mutual aid than you and I still find the time to vote
You keep moving the goal posts in your commnets.
No, i’m just surrounded by people who don’t know reading comprehension. I never said people shouldn’t vote, i am not the projection of the people you despise, i am my own individual with my own view. Ppl here are talking to me like i am endorsing trump while i am just fucking saying you should also look to yourselves and your methods if you really want to find out why people don’t vote