• Fester@lemm.ee
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    1 day ago

    “So what you’re saying is we need to move further to the right.”

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      8 hours ago

      I don’t know why everyone keeps insisting that courting the right was a stupid move. I personally know a lot of life long Republicans that got real tired of the MAGA stuff. In this matchup specifically, trying to scoop the conservative-but-not-MAGA vote makes sense by the numbers. Obviously it didn’t pan out, but at least in theory, there should be a sizeable bloc of voters there.

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        7 hours ago

        Less people voted Trump in 2024 than in 2020. It is not that Trump won, it is that Biden/Harris lost hard.

        Trump: 74 Mio. in 2020, 73 Mio. in 2024

        Biden/Harris: 81 Mio. in 2020, 69 Mio. in 2024

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_United_States_presidential_election

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_United_States_presidential_election

        Seems like people on the less right side of politics also got tired after the whole “we need to stop Trump or democracy ends” messaging led to an underwhelming / genocidal and dementia struck president

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          6 hours ago

          It’s easy to look back. I sincerely think that, based on research and subsequent speculation, appealing to non-MAGA conservatives was a rational play. It explains Liz Cheney and the whole nothing-will-fundamentally-change angle.

          Again, didn’t pay off, but I’m sure research showed greater expected returns from conservatives than leftists.

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            6 hours ago

            But these “lets poll and analyse who to peddle to” strategy has been a failure for two of the past three elections. People are tired of getting managed messages instead of a coherent platform.

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              6 hours ago

              I’m not saying you’re incorrect, I’m just saying that, considering the circumstances, it wasn’t an unreasonable gamble. Leftists are notoriously stingy with their vote. As long as progressives are unreliable on election day, appealing to proven voters on well-vocalized issues is a safer strategy. It being an unsuccessful strategy doesn’t mean it’s not the most successful strategy.

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      Exactly the message I expect them to take away from this, if 2016 and 2020 are any indication. Zero introspection.