Please stop reporting all OF models as spam. If a post is off-topic, report is as off-topic. If community rules forbid OF models from posting, report that. If a user is flooding a sub with multiple posts a day in a row, that’s a legit report as well.

Otherwise a post by an OF model is not in and of itself spam, even if it is made by a <ferengi>female</ferengi> with the temerity to control her own sexuality.

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    It’s advertising. I don’t care for advertising. It’s like if all food subs were posts by Kraft, Taco Bell, Lays, Ben & Jerry’s, etc.

    If people want to advertise, that’s fine, there are avenues for that. r/gonewild got ruined by being filled to the brim with OF ads. Other communities had to be made to recreate the space that gonewild used to be.

    the basis for r/gonewild was a place for REDDITORS to “go wild”, not for women who are paid to do so, to then create a reddit account so they can have a place to advertise their product (their photos and videos) for free.

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      If gonewild wants to restrict OF posts, that’s fine. Then it becomes a violation of community rules. That’s really a debate for the mods and posters in gonewild. The mere fact that someone has an OF is not grounds for reporting.

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        There might be a need to handle the cross-community spammers on an instance or Fediverse wide level though, in particular the ones who post to any porn community with the same title and picture regardless of the picture/title being on topic for that community.

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      They aren’t just advertising though, they are also contributing. A better analogy is food companies going to a food convention and giving out free food. The site would be a lot quieter without their contribution.

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        even with the food subs comparison the food companies would be “contributing” too, but with self-serving memes that are really just ads. See twitter for a solid example.

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      I think that this is better handled per community instead of per instance.

      I get what you say about r/gonewild getting ruined by OF posts; OF posts are usually optimised to make you check the link and follow the content creator, so they’re crafted in a very specific way to gather attention that spontaneous posts wouldn’t, so the later ends overshadowed and the posts feel more and more similar to each other over time.

      However, what I feel that the platform needs the most is content quantity; there’s relatively little content here, so even OF posts are contributing, even if you label them as advertisement.

      And in this specific case we can have the cake and have it too. Since we already know that OF and spontaneous content don’t mix well, communities can be geared towards one or another type of content. Just like hentai vs. RL porn, or fetish vs. vanilla. It’s also more inclusive because, come on, “you can’t post here because you got OF” sounds a bit arbitrary as a restriction.

      Note that your analogy with food subs is flawed: food subs discuss food, while porn subs distribute porn. You can’t eat a cake online, but you can see porn online. And once we handle this difference, it becomes like @xyth said, it’s more like those people are from food companies distributing free food, in a place about sharing free food. (Or rather food kiosks doing it - OF posters are individuals, not companies.)

      Just my two cents.

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        I moderated a small subreddit. 90% of the posts I removed where OF bot spam, and 100% of obvious botspam was OF bots.

        Between that and other platforms being filled with OF ads I can’t say I agree. It needs to be handled on a per-instance basis because once the OF spam infection takes root it’s basically impossible to eliminate regardless of community rules. Once direct posts get under control they move onto cross posting, then replying to top comments. It never ends.

        For every one good OF creator that doesn’t spam you get at least 10 who use bots, and the bot users make significantly more money while having to produce less content than the ethical OF creators and that’ll never change. It’s not worth letting them destroy an entire instance just to be fair to the few good actors.

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          Yeah, coming from Reddit here as well. I don’t think they understand what’s coming. Which is sad because plenty of us are trying to warn them.

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      r/Gonewild has specific rules about no OF posters. To the point that even if your post doesn’t mention OF, but you have one linked in your profile you get banned.

      It made GW worse. Not just because OF creators have better, higher quality content that fits that sub, but also because as I pointed out once to them it was a dumb idea to block people who in most cases of OF creators don’t even monetize, or only do custom content. Otherwise the account is free to follow. Which is an important differentiation since diversifying where you post and where people can find you is a major thing.