In the hours following former President Donald Trump’s election victory, Google searches related to 4B — a fringe South Korean feminist movement that made a name for itself in the mid to late 2010s — surged in the United States.

  • Ajen@sh.itjust.works
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    6 days ago

    But if it’s only the women on the left who are doing it, doesn’t that mean the next generation of Americans will only come from from Republican parents? Sounds pretty counterproductive, if you’ll excuse the pun.

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      They won’t be enough to meet replacement levels or grow their precious white christian population. Which for the moment is more than enough schadenfreude for me.

      • Ajen@sh.itjust.works
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        Talk about cutting off one’s nose to spite one’s face.

        Think about the future you’re describing. The vast majority of young adults will be indoctrinated by the Republican party. Since there’s a shortage of workers in general, there will be a shortage of healthcare workers for elderly people (like I hope to become). No public healthcare (since the majority of the population is Republican), and not enough young people to keep social security afloat. I don’t want that, and I don’t think most people on the left do either.

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          6 days ago

          Have you considered that, when a woman ponders to have sex and/or have children, they may not care about what YOU want?

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            6 days ago

            I wasn’t trying to imply that women have any sort of duty to have children, I’m sorry if it came off that way. But the reality is that Republicans are having more children than Democrats, and that means most young people will be indoctrinated by the Republican party. I don’t mean to be presumptuous, but I don’t think most women on the left want the majority of young adults to be Republicans in 20 years. Right now we have roughly a 50/50 split between parties, which most people don’t seem happy about. It could get worse.

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              Still, the idea that women (or men even) need to/have any moral imperative to breed in order to increase the support for their party is madness.

              If it gets to 80% Republicans and people still vote for it… Let them have/suffer it.

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                  6 days ago

                  I’m affected by politics, I won’t breed only you increase votes to my preferred party

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                    What they are missing is that the only reason 4B can be a political statement, is if it was never really okay for women to use their bodies as they would like in the first place.

                    Asking us to have children, questioning our decisions with our bodies, is inherently the thing we are rising against. If they didn’t do that, then refusing to have sex with them would be apolitical. It’s only political because men make it so by acting entitled to us and our bodies.

                    Is it political to cross a street at a crosswalk? No, it’s what everyone does. It’s expected. It’s only political if you do something like protest by standing in traffic.

                    That there is any outcry at all from men shows the movement is necessary.