I mean, yeah? All of the OG libertarians from the 1800s were socialists/communists/anarchists. The entire ideology was built on leftist values and eventually the term just got stolen by rightwingers. Same as the Nazis stealing socialism and anarcho-capitalism being an invention of the people who stole libertarianism
to the politically nonaligned chuddy people i interact with in RL think i’m just a libertarian. they think that just means brainy Republican-adjacent type and i just shovel left wing concepts at them
the U.S. is fucked we basically are going to have to end up doing weird entryism especially since right libertarian mask off moment is here and under the mask is a violent police state enforcing corporate capitalism that comes across so impersonal they actual think it’s communism lol
i just sell commie concepts as a “small business paradise” where everyone can follow their dreams, the state has a light touch and just manages large scale stuff (commanding heights) in the background and everyone co-owns their place of business. USAians love this shit
honestly even if a collapse comes ML will never gain purchase in the U.S. the state is too wrecked. there’s not much to seize besides the military.
best we will ever get will be some kind of market socialist libertarian marxism or ancom if a full collapse return to villages scenerio happens
Yeah, the idea that the US would do anything other than more fascism is difficult to imagine without some radical shifts. Privatization and means testing (bureaucracy in general really) has basically killed or is killing everything even close to good about the US/state governments. Hardly anyone has anything beyond a vague, heavily propagandized understanding of history, politics, etc.
I’ve made this joke before and I think I’m going to get a lot of mileage out of it: we are the real libertarians.
I mean, yeah? All of the OG libertarians from the 1800s were socialists/communists/anarchists. The entire ideology was built on leftist values and eventually the term just got stolen by rightwingers. Same as the Nazis stealing socialism and anarcho-capitalism being an invention of the people who stole libertarianism
Yeah actual left libertarians are fine, basically ancoms
to the politically nonaligned chuddy people i interact with in RL think i’m just a libertarian. they think that just means brainy Republican-adjacent type and i just shovel left wing concepts at them
the U.S. is fucked we basically are going to have to end up doing weird entryism especially since right libertarian mask off moment is here and under the mask is a violent police state enforcing corporate capitalism that comes across so impersonal they actual think it’s communism lol
i just sell commie concepts as a “small business paradise” where everyone can follow their dreams, the state has a light touch and just manages large scale stuff (commanding heights) in the background and everyone co-owns their place of business. USAians love this shit
honestly even if a collapse comes ML will never gain purchase in the U.S. the state is too wrecked. there’s not much to seize besides the military.
best we will ever get will be some kind of market socialist libertarian marxism or ancom if a full collapse return to villages scenerio happens
Yeah, the idea that the US would do anything other than more fascism is difficult to imagine without some radical shifts. Privatization and means testing (bureaucracy in general really) has basically killed or is killing everything even close to good about the US/state governments. Hardly anyone has anything beyond a vague, heavily propagandized understanding of history, politics, etc.