• HipsterTenZero@dormi.zone
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    2 hours ago

    100%

    I dont actually care about the continued propogation of the species all that much, and I’m cooked either way so… lets crab bucket it up.

  • robotElder2 [he/him, it/its]@hexbear.net
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    99% death is the current plan of the one percent. MAD worked. To deter them we should comit now to total human extinction in that event. Jeff Bezos does not get kill us all and live out his days in a new Zeeland bunker.

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    7 hours ago

    Me posing the question “Would you prefer global communism or nuclear war?” to try to get answer I want through false dichotomy, only to be disappointed in the results.

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    I don’t think this question is particularly interesting or productive, either you accept total extinction or you accept eco-fascism as a valid viewpoint in the context of this question. There’s nothing to be learned from, and it sets the user up to align with eco-fascism based on a false dichotomy to begin with.

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    Starting over wouldn’t have any benefits unless humans would somehow have a completely changed consciousness. Otherwise the same egocentric views would dominate and competition would make sure that we get the same world again.

    Humans are not capable of prioritizing “what do we as a species want to accomplish this year”. Should we look at world production and make sure nobody goes hungry, for example. Nope, can’t do it, because we have countries and money, making sure we can’t just cooperate and make it happen.

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      Most of the richest 1% would come from few different countries, so there would probably be less cultural differences at least. I could imagine the world being divided into one country per continent or something. People living very far from each other would accelerate digitalisation of governance.

      Cutting emissions by about 95% could also help with climate change. Also people could just move away from highly affected regions.

      I think humanity might just be better off. That said, I dont think this is limited to the richest 1%, most distributions of 1% of the population would do.

  • Quintus@lemmy.ml
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    There’s only one answer. What’s the point of this question? The only people that would want total wipe out are the ones that say stuff like “Humanity is a cancer on the world I shall go and do a clean-up!”.

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    The outcome would be the same. If the 1% survived some event, they wouldn’t be able to survive on their own and would thus die out. It would just take a little longer for them.

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      Eh, 1% includes like 80 million people globally, they’re not all useless billionaires. There are probably a good number of them (likely towards the lower end of the spectrum) that actually work for a living and enough existing resources they’d have time to rework society.

      The real question I have is how they’d be distributed. 1% globally or 1% per country/region. Both have advantages and disadvantages for survival.

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    These scenarios are identical in my opinion. They’ll likely dwindle and die in a short time anyway. The wealthy are not particularly well suited to rebuilding society, nor are they at a disadvantage, they are just average people who (used to) have wealth.

    Actually, little side thought occurs to me here, they can’t access their wealth unless it was stored physically, and even then, only if our concept of currency hasn’t changed. In my version of this scenario, I’m assuming the 1% still have useful currency, banks still work, etc.

    So we got a bunch of more or less equally rich people, who may have access to resources, but their laborers and security forces are Thanos-snapped away.

    Hmm…

    My guess is that the ones who have weapons will establish a sort of warlord apocalypse scenario. Wouldn’t be much different from any other random selection of 1% of the population. The resources you hold and the skills you know matter even more when society disappears. It will start with 1%, the sudden shock of not having most other people to provide for each other will quickly halve that. The fighting over resources will kill a bit more. Eventually there will be an environmental disaster like a drought, and that’s it for humanity.

    • tomi000@lemmy.world
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      If 80m people survived a few thousand years ago and kept growing, why would 80m people now, with access to thousands of times more knowledge and technology, die?

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        People run technology. People have knowledge. These things die when people die.

        The richest 1% are not those people. We’d have a better chance with a random selection (only 12% of billionaires are female!)

        The internet, electricity, running water, sewage, do not work unless someone is operating and maintaining them. Manufacture of supplies to maintain them depend on coordination across the globe, and further specialized skills.

        Effectively, technology will be reset for at least a generation to pre-electricity levels. This is survivable, sure.

        But, the way I see it, if this event happened instantly or close to it (months, even) the survivors would not be prepared to shift immediately to that lifestyle. This is where I would predict mass deaths.

        I’ve also been assuming these people are not together in one place, and without air travel they would be limited to a shorter range. I suppose if they were all smart enough, they might congregate in a few different places. There’s a chance if they cooperate and don’t fight each other. Humans can do that. The richest humans, though?

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    The 1% live a sheltered and privileged life on the shoulders of the rest. If that support would disappears, I don’t see much chance for long term survival. You’d be fucked anyway.

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      I don’t think you give them enough credit. Do they live a good life? Yes.

      On the shoulders of others? Yes

      Are they stupid? No

      Are they unable to read or learn? No

      They’d survive

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      Maybe the 1% of the 1% would survive then. The billionaires who spent their wealth on batman training. They would make good cannibals.

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    This is just a question on whether one were rich or not lol.

    But anyway, both option tend to end with everyone dead or at least only 0.001% surviving if we’re talking about Thanos snap situation. The 1% cannot run any facility on their own(electricity, plumbing, health, etc), and tend not to be a survivor expert. Infighting will happen soon, and tribes will form. If it happens in winter, the one from cold country will all die out if they don’t all have doomsday vault, leaving those from the warmer climate to face the element. In the end, they will realise the billions and millions of moneys they accumulated is worthless if there’s no way to use it.

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    The latter. It’s bad, hopeless, but still better than the former which is a completely nonrecoverable loss position.