I got down voted to fuck in another thread for saying this lol
The amount of excuses fatties come up with is actually depressing. You don’t have to swap every meal for a boring salad, you don’t have to run ten miles a day, you don’t have to meticulously count every calorie or commit to fad diets etc etc etc.
All you have to do is eat less. It’s simple, it’s easy. No one gives a fuck that you’re busy, or a super taster or that you comfort eat, or that you feel super hungry before bed time. None of that is stopping you from eating just a bit less.
There are a minority of fat people who have significant mental or health issues of which I empathise, but for most, it’s a combination of greed and the inability to delay gratification.
You need only two things to achieve and maintain a healthy weight;
Be honest with yourself
The will power to not consistently over eat
Edit: and here come the downvotes again lol you know I’m right, it’s just that the truth hurts.
I downvote you, as a thin person, because you are an asshole. And this is kinda stupid:
There are a minority of fat people who have significant mental or health issues of which I empathise, but for most, it’s a combination of greed and the inability to delay gratification.
Perhaps think about it more. Or don’t comment on other people’s bodies.
Such “empathy” leads to early deaths of people, who have families. It’d be better to stop being a fat fuck and give a shit about staying around for your loved ones.
I have the same thing but it turns out opposite for me. When I moved out I’d just forget to eat with my parents not putting food in front of me anymore. I have a migraine issue that’s related to all of this somehow so I’d regularly be curled up in a ball in my bedroom because my body forgot to remind me to eat or drink. It’s crazy how different our bodies all are and it’s important to remember that with some empathy for others.
It’s not as bad as “disordered eating” makes it sound. It’s not like you’re bingeing and then throwing it back up.
We didn’t evolve to have constantly stocked up fridges and cupboards. In cave man times, you would go through times of plenty and times of famine many times in your life. Maybe one week you hunt a nice big stag, you’ll eat as much as possible because you don’t know when you’ll next have a successful hunt and it’s not like you can just pop it in the freezer, especially if it’s at a time of year where gathering fruits and seeds is unlikely.
Eating lots one week and little the next is arguably better than the constant grazing that we take for granted in modern times. What you’re doing is more natural given the way that we evolved than what the majority of us do.
I’d put food addiction under mental health issues which I did say I empathise with, but these are a minority of cases. Not every fat person is food addicted.
It is easy. There’s nothing hard about recognising that you’re overweight and then looking at the amount of food on your plates and saying “from now on I’ll have 20% less than that”, then weighing yourself a few months after that to measure your progress and adjusting the amount you eat further if necessary. You do not need a PhD in food science or biology, nor do you need the will power of the most mentally strong human that’s ever lived to be able to commit to eating a bit less.
I’d put food addiction under mental health issues which I did say I empathise with, but these are a minority of cases.
As far as I know, it’s a lot more than just a minority, but if you have a source and information I’m not aware of, please share. Always eager to learn.
For the sake of our discussion, let’s assume you’re right and mental health reasons are just a negligible minority. There’s also an obesity pandemic going on right now in most of the (western) world. Has been for a while, I hope we can agree on that.
So, if there’s an obesity pandemic going on, but losing weight is simple and easy, and it’s not majorly mental health reasons, I gotta ask: Why are people overweight/fat/obese? Do you think people want to be fat? What’s your point here?
I think most people want a fit and healthy body, but that many people are not willing to trade cake now, for that nice healthy body that might be a few months or more away.
I’m not really trying to make a point. I’m just saying things how I see them.
Honestly, I think it’s not about willingness. There are so many people who try and try and try but relapse over and over again. There’s a reason why diets are so popular (even if they don’t work long-term). It has become an entire market. Losing weight is not easy, because at the end of it all it is an addiction for most. It has nothing to do with willpower and whatnot. If that was the case, fat people would never achieve anything in life. And yet there are, for example, fat doctors. Studying medicine is hard as fuck and needs a lot of willpower. So what’s stopping them if not an addiction? Especially as doctors they know the havoc being obese wreaks. Being obese is not fun at all. If all that was needed was willpower, we wouldn’t have a pandemic on our hands.
I’m not really trying to make a point. I’m just saying things how I see them.
I know. And I’m challenging your opinion because I truly believe losing weight is simple, but simply not easy.
Because most people are lazy and or stupid and don’t want to make the effort to do the things they need to do even more than they don’t want to be fat. Every single fat person I know over eats at every meal and is always snacking and even when they do try to diet they give themselves tons of cheat days and fuck themselves over. It’s as simple as eating less calories than you need but they can’t manage it because they’ve trained their bodies to expect them to be constantly cramming garbage down their gullet and if they don’t they’re hungry all the time which is apparently impossible to deal with for them because they have no willpower.
It’s as simple as eating less calories than you need
Agreed. It’s simple. But simple is not necessarily easy. There’s a difference.
but they can’t manage it because they’ve trained their bodies to expect them to be constantly cramming garbage down their gullet
Sounds a hell of a lot like an addiction to me.
[…] lazy and or stupid and don’t want to make the effort […] cramming garbage down their gullet […] they have no willpower
Your entire response is filled with vitriol. You attribute a serious problem that has become a pandemic to an individual personal fault rather than acknowledge there might be a systemic problem, which leads me to believe that not only do you hate or despise overweight people, but you put them down to make yourself feel superior.
It is almost always an individual fault. Just happens to be a fuckload of individuals who are faulty. Then they go online and make excuses for each other instead of trying to improve themselves. Why shouldn’t I despise them? If they lack the willpower to control their eating because it’s difficult what other failings are they going to be willing to forgive themselves for?
Self-control is never easy. Especially when you let yourself indulge for years on end. It is a skill that has to be learned and continuously developed. That goes for having self-control in a diet, gaming, using drugs or alcohol, or anything else that is habit forming. It’s not easy but it is always achievable
I went on a diet a few years ago and lost about 40 pounds. But it was miserable. I was hungry all the time. I thought about food and eating all day long.
Your vitriol hatred tells more about yourself than you want to admit. You should show this comment of yours to a therapist, you might have some issues to work out.
I upvoted you because you’re absolutely correct and you’re getting downvoted by the majority of tubbies who are addicted to sugar, salt and fat and refuse to admit it
I got down voted to fuck in another thread for saying this lol
The amount of excuses fatties come up with is actually depressing. You don’t have to swap every meal for a boring salad, you don’t have to run ten miles a day, you don’t have to meticulously count every calorie or commit to fad diets etc etc etc.
All you have to do is eat less. It’s simple, it’s easy. No one gives a fuck that you’re busy, or a super taster or that you comfort eat, or that you feel super hungry before bed time. None of that is stopping you from eating just a bit less.
There are a minority of fat people who have significant mental or health issues of which I empathise, but for most, it’s a combination of greed and the inability to delay gratification.
You need only two things to achieve and maintain a healthy weight;
Edit: and here come the downvotes again lol you know I’m right, it’s just that the truth hurts.
I downvote you, as a thin person, because you are an asshole. And this is kinda stupid:
Perhaps think about it more. Or don’t comment on other people’s bodies.
You: Wahhhhhh not being a fat ass is hard.
You: Reeee I have to be an edgelord online because having empathy is too hard and I don’t respect people who have bodies I don’t like.
Such “empathy” leads to early deaths of people, who have families. It’d be better to stop being a fat fuck and give a shit about staying around for your loved ones.
Shaming and insulting people makes them more overweight.
You can read about it here, for example, if that isn’t too complicated for you:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6565398/
https://www.ucl.ac.uk/news/2014/sep/fat-shaming-doesnt-encourage-weight-loss
https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/effects-of-fat-shaming
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/14647001211048300
Do you want people to be overweight because otherwise you wouldn’t get a pass looking down on them? Perhaps you should look for a therapist.
I have one because I have disordered eating actually, and needed to stop killing myself with food.
Oh gee, all that and nowhere does it say that an insult equals 3,500 calories! It’s the words that make you fat! I should have known. /eyeroll
Trying the pitty party now? Being miserable doesn’t excuse you to try and make others feel miserable.
Oh, I’m happy- because I’m not obese anymore. Will still point out other’s fat logic.
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I have the same thing but it turns out opposite for me. When I moved out I’d just forget to eat with my parents not putting food in front of me anymore. I have a migraine issue that’s related to all of this somehow so I’d regularly be curled up in a ball in my bedroom because my body forgot to remind me to eat or drink. It’s crazy how different our bodies all are and it’s important to remember that with some empathy for others.
You found something that works for you despite your problems and that’s absolutely brilliant.
There’s nothing wrong at all with eating too much one day/week and making up for it by eating less the next day/week.
Well, you’re a goat. You either graze or hop mountains
My guy… that’s disordered eating.
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It’s not as bad as “disordered eating” makes it sound. It’s not like you’re bingeing and then throwing it back up.
We didn’t evolve to have constantly stocked up fridges and cupboards. In cave man times, you would go through times of plenty and times of famine many times in your life. Maybe one week you hunt a nice big stag, you’ll eat as much as possible because you don’t know when you’ll next have a successful hunt and it’s not like you can just pop it in the freezer, especially if it’s at a time of year where gathering fruits and seeds is unlikely.
Eating lots one week and little the next is arguably better than the constant grazing that we take for granted in modern times. What you’re doing is more natural given the way that we evolved than what the majority of us do.
So, you could keep eating as much as you want without ever feeling full and bloated, like your stomach could explode?
Just curious, you have an interesting condition.
It may be simple but certainly not easy. Food can become a serious addiction.
Recovered from BED, can confirm
I’d put food addiction under mental health issues which I did say I empathise with, but these are a minority of cases. Not every fat person is food addicted.
It is easy. There’s nothing hard about recognising that you’re overweight and then looking at the amount of food on your plates and saying “from now on I’ll have 20% less than that”, then weighing yourself a few months after that to measure your progress and adjusting the amount you eat further if necessary. You do not need a PhD in food science or biology, nor do you need the will power of the most mentally strong human that’s ever lived to be able to commit to eating a bit less.
As far as I know, it’s a lot more than just a minority, but if you have a source and information I’m not aware of, please share. Always eager to learn.
For the sake of our discussion, let’s assume you’re right and mental health reasons are just a negligible minority. There’s also an obesity pandemic going on right now in most of the (western) world. Has been for a while, I hope we can agree on that.
So, if there’s an obesity pandemic going on, but losing weight is simple and easy, and it’s not majorly mental health reasons, I gotta ask: Why are people overweight/fat/obese? Do you think people want to be fat? What’s your point here?
I think most people want a fit and healthy body, but that many people are not willing to trade cake now, for that nice healthy body that might be a few months or more away.
I’m not really trying to make a point. I’m just saying things how I see them.
Honestly, I think it’s not about willingness. There are so many people who try and try and try but relapse over and over again. There’s a reason why diets are so popular (even if they don’t work long-term). It has become an entire market. Losing weight is not easy, because at the end of it all it is an addiction for most. It has nothing to do with willpower and whatnot. If that was the case, fat people would never achieve anything in life. And yet there are, for example, fat doctors. Studying medicine is hard as fuck and needs a lot of willpower. So what’s stopping them if not an addiction? Especially as doctors they know the havoc being obese wreaks. Being obese is not fun at all. If all that was needed was willpower, we wouldn’t have a pandemic on our hands.
I know. And I’m challenging your opinion because I truly believe losing weight is simple, but simply not easy.
Because most people are lazy and or stupid and don’t want to make the effort to do the things they need to do even more than they don’t want to be fat. Every single fat person I know over eats at every meal and is always snacking and even when they do try to diet they give themselves tons of cheat days and fuck themselves over. It’s as simple as eating less calories than you need but they can’t manage it because they’ve trained their bodies to expect them to be constantly cramming garbage down their gullet and if they don’t they’re hungry all the time which is apparently impossible to deal with for them because they have no willpower.
Agreed. It’s simple. But simple is not necessarily easy. There’s a difference.
Sounds a hell of a lot like an addiction to me.
Your entire response is filled with vitriol. You attribute a serious problem that has become a pandemic to an individual personal fault rather than acknowledge there might be a systemic problem, which leads me to believe that not only do you hate or despise overweight people, but you put them down to make yourself feel superior.
It is almost always an individual fault. Just happens to be a fuckload of individuals who are faulty. Then they go online and make excuses for each other instead of trying to improve themselves. Why shouldn’t I despise them? If they lack the willpower to control their eating because it’s difficult what other failings are they going to be willing to forgive themselves for?
Yeah, nobody forces them to go to McDonald’s every day after work.
Self-control is never easy. Especially when you let yourself indulge for years on end. It is a skill that has to be learned and continuously developed. That goes for having self-control in a diet, gaming, using drugs or alcohol, or anything else that is habit forming. It’s not easy but it is always achievable
That is usually the problem that is not easily resolved. If you don’t have enough will power, you’re screwed.
Absolutely true
Yeah it’s really not simple or easy for everyone.
I went on a diet a few years ago and lost about 40 pounds. But it was miserable. I was hungry all the time. I thought about food and eating all day long.
Your vitriol hatred tells more about yourself than you want to admit. You should show this comment of yours to a therapist, you might have some issues to work out.
Vitriol hatred? Where have I said that I hate fat people?
I can think that some one is fat and or weak minded without hating them.
I upvoted you because you’re absolutely correct and you’re getting downvoted by the majority of tubbies who are addicted to sugar, salt and fat and refuse to admit it