i wish no harm to american ruling class, my enemy is the american people

op admits it was a joke originally, but says after witnessing the contempt of the american people for gaza, is sad to say his joke was correct (unless i’m misreading this)

the user posting_forever writes “yeah well welcome to what happens when your country bombs and threatens half of the earth. feels pretty shitty, huh?”

barbarism critic continues their thread “If you have posted this as a joke that’s one thing, but there’s wayyyy too much of this sentiment expressed sincerely on here and as a signifier of being the “most radical”. It is not! It is poorly disguised misanthropy and nihilism!”

one person say that barbarism critic is “the brianna wu of 2025. Remember kids I called it”

i guess there is some very real perceived material interests of americans to continue the genocide in palestine, like the christian zionists, or the liberals who want to continue the american dominance via global hegemony, and the labor aristocrats in america who want the treats.

i was listening to rev left radio “The Long Transition Towards Socialism and the End of Capitalism” with Torkil Lauesen and, probably gonna butcher it - but my understanding is that as we enter a multipolar world, the americans will not be able to blatantly exploit the over-exploited nations (global south) leading to increasingly deteriorating conditions in the imperial core, which will set the grounds very clearly between socialism and barbarism?

and we are to organize and help alleviate the woes of the people which also serve as a way of building relations that lead to building power via organizations.

(iirc the bolsheviks has above ground orgs and underground orgs for the law breaking stuff)

eh i dunno just over analyzing what do you peeps think.

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    yes? though i’m additionally saying that the rest of the imperial bloc is often also playing at absolution from responsibility in working against systems from which they also benefit, which put charitably is disingenuous. western europe isn’t solely ‘envious’, they actively benefit from imperialism -right now-, as do the other anglo settler colonies besides the US.

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      Yeah, I edited my comment to mention that fact about 34 seconds before you replied (sorry!), because really that is a huge part of the issue that should not be omitted or forgotten. I like to call that the “Spiderman point strat”. You also see this with people in the USA talking about Japan discriminating against Zainichi Koreans, or with Zionist settlers suddenly caring a whole awful lot about the plight of the West Papuans and Iroquois. Everybody in the imperial core just loves to distract from their own atrocities by pointing to others’, it seems.

      One other thought I’ve kept coming back to when it comes to Europe’s relationship to the USA, though, both in terms of that “Eurolib” anti-Americanism as well as paradoxically Europeans’ fetish for all things American, is that this relationship at least partly serves to reproduce settlerism and US hegemony, by basically making it harder for people to move from the USA to Europe and stay there. I could go on about this but I don’t want to ramble.