I feel like a boomer in my 20s with the fact that I fucking despise having to pay 30-40 dollars a month just so some guy from work can reach me and tell me I need to work extra hours. Everything and everyone else I can contact online using my work’s PC or my personal laptop. It’s also dogshit-garbage because it’s getting to the point where most services entirely give up on their desktop/browser ports or websites because they just assume people are going to use their phone.

Instagram was like this for a long while. Indeed recently removed their “distance” feature and other filter features from their desktop version. Reddit is another example. Enshittification of the internet to put it all on a phone is awful.

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    I dislike them since I prefer pcs, but I don’t hate them per se. I do wish I could have instagram features on pc though.

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    [extremely Yeonmi Park voice] one of the big drawbacks of charging your EV in america is you need like fifteen different proprietary apps and accounts on each one

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    imagine if your boss had to come to your place and knock on the door screaming “TALK TO ME NOW, TALK TO ME NOW, TALK TO ME NOW, TALK TO ME NOW” to get you to cover an extra shift lol
    maybe the anti-civs are onto something (they aren’t)

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      That more or less happened to one person I knew at previous a job. He tried to call off for transportation reasons and the manager told him they will come pick him up instead. He wasn’t very happy about it lol.

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    I’m old enough to remember when cell phones were a toy of the rich and were appropriately considered an embarrassing intrusion into life, and I remember later watching in horror as iOS consistently broke in the direction of infantilization, walled garden, and snitching; and the further horror of competitors mimicking rather than contrasting with these practices. Up until then, the overwhelming tendency had been to expand the capabilities of computers (from the user’s perspective). It’s not as if portable miniature computer/tranceivers have to be done this badly.
    say-the-line-bart-1 say-the-line-bart-2 El problema es el capitalismo

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    I like phones. But mini-handheld-computers, I’m not a fan of. I’m being a bit tongue in cheek putting it that way, but point is, where phones went wrong in my view is when they became about being basically everything else other than a phone (and of course, capitalism played a big part in why that went so wrong).

    The irony is, cordless phones (including the older fliphones and now "smart"phones) are actually worse at phone calls. I remember, and have talked to someone older before who remembers probably better than I do, how corded phones had significantly better phone call clarity. Now it feels like I have to use bluetooth headphones to get anything close to the clarity of an old corded phone, though it’s probably more like the quality of an old cordless phone at that point (the kind that still had a good speaker close to your ear).

    This isn’t the only area where “technological advancement” has actually lead to worse quality. IIRC, for example, audio on platforms such as youtube tends to be worse than what you’d find on a CD which is worse than what you’d find on a good record. I don’t know if this is still as true for the highest quality video upload/settings and if someone knows better, feel free to correct me. But I remember reading/hearing about it at some point.

    Anyway, I digress. I also wanted to mention how one of the problems with "smart"phones is that they are much more obfuscated in design than PCs are. Even if you want to be technologically literate with them, it’s actually hard to do so, compared to a PC. Filesystems are opaque and much of what you interact with is some surface level settings you’re allowed to change and a bunch of apps that are doing god knows what with your personal info. There was a dark humor kind of quote about this I read in passing, went something like: “We raised exactly one generation of people who are literate in computers.” The generation that grew up with computers, quite a few gained some significant literacy in computers and end up helping the older generations that didn’t. The generation that is growing up with smartphones, they are… I guess literate in particular apps? But it’s more of a challenge for them to organically become literate with computers in the same way. This isn’t to say it’s a binary generational thing or that a quote like that is entirely factually accurate across the board, but it kind of gets at one of the problems with how “phones” have taken over.

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    I pay about $20/no for my phone service with a small phone company Ting. It’s not unlimited data, but I don’t need that. Never had a problem with them. They use T-Mobile as the network.

    I don’t really understand the devotion some people have to brands. Apple doesn’t care about you. Google certainly doesn’t.

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      I’m not on Ting anymore because I use too much mobile data but when I spent most of my time on wifi, I definitely loved it. Their customer service was always amazing and if you are the type who uses basically zero mobile data, or are willing to pay a premium for good customer service, I would highly recommend them! I don’t know if it’s still the case but when I was a customer, there wasn’t a phone tree, you called a number and got straight to a human, sometimes you’d spend a minute or two on hold but never that long.

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      throwing a phone, whether it’s an apple brand or a robot brand or even a linus brand, on a window will yield the same result. it’s a phone. it’s a fucking phone. why cause a war over it? the companies want money, not a verbal equivalent to an indentured servitude towards the fact that you used competitor’s product. you switched phones? ok cool, just don’t shove that “iphone better” down my throat i had that experience for too many times, especially with my inlaw

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    my phone is an addiction i have to constantly manage that makes me miserable. “phones bad” was a bit of a joke for a while cause of boomers saying it, but i’ve come to believe it’s completely true lol

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    Phone bills are some of the highest here in Canada so I get the frustration. I also hate the fact that when I’m browsing the internet on my phone it almost always tries to force me to use the app for whatever website I’m using.

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    also i forgot to mention something in my main comment but this is pretty important: i hate phone wars almost as much as enforced “download our app” and maybe phones altogether.

    this is separate because it’s not informatory like the one about tracking. this is just a rant i did while sleepy. i apologize for commenting twice and will not do this again, i thought it was allowed

    i like phone when i can emulate funny game, i like phone when shattered pixel dungeon is a thing, but i hate people who call my phone shit because “not iphone” or “not samsung” or whatever phone brand people worship, i am not made of gold, my trees don’t grow money, shut the fuck up

    i have this classmate who is so smug about “converting into an apple fan” and i told him “good for you, be in debt for all i care” and he also got the apple watch. i don’t understand smart watches for people that don’t do jogging, don’t those cause stress for showing you your heart rate? but i digress. he was like “you thought i wanted an iphone? no, but after seeing with my very eyes how it works and how it takes pictures i put my own money into them and i got a phone that i will have for at least 5 years, and iPhone 14 Pro comes with iOS 17 out of the box, so the years of updates are set for me”, like yea sure spend an entire minimum wage salary at a phone that cannot be repaired or fiddled with. see how an iphone works? that shit looks the same as 15 years ago or whatever. they’re the phone you get to look like you are the coolest of the cool on earth, they’re the phone that movies are obligated to sign a contract to use (and only for the good protagonists, never the antagonists! android evil ifone good ! buy more now best no fake real)

    little me seeing minecraft pe free no virus on android: ok this is the one i want

    this guy just makes me want to throw him out the window

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      If a refurb pixel with grapheneos is the phone of evil then I’m happy to be evil. I guess the only way I could get more evil is to use xiaomi or huawei

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        only good guys use ifone ! putin uses huawei mega evil moster ogm

        jokes aside i’d get a xiaomi. i really want something to custom rom. sadly, pixels are not an option. i knew someone who said that iphones are superior because they’re called “smartphones” and android phones are just called “phones”. romanians call them phones regardless, fuck it, just fuck it, i can’t stand phone wars anymore, it’s all a wallet battle

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          My refurb pixel 7 was like 200 USD which isn’t too bad for me, but that’s the old Imperial Core Privelege at work. Ofc I’m not sure what the situation is in your country. I would never buy a phone new these days anyway. Not worth the price

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            my country has this culture where new is good, but also old is good. my family used to buy second hand but “new is always better and will work unlike second hand” smh

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      phone that movies are obligated to sign a contract to use (and only for the good protagonists, never the antagonists! android evil ifone good !

      Is this real lol? I’m going to keep a lookout the next time I build up the tolerance for a movie made since the iPhone came out.

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        i heard it was real! it’s the apple “no villain clause” apparently and was shown by the director of “knives out” rian johnson

        and james bond was known for using android phones at one point, but is that a villain or a protagonist? i don’t give a shit, the br*tish ew yucky barf sound effect 5

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    data is easier to obtain through a phone from what i know, that’s why important features are getting probed from the browser version and transferred to the mobile version (which is most likely a browser version due to the chromium craze), no way to do it in any other way other than through “the app”

    browsers like firefox have some measures to keep data in or whatever, especially on phones (which is why some privacy advocates prefer using the browser for stuff that ask for phone programme apps or whatever they’re called. software.) and even companies that use this data junk go like “IT’S BETTER TO USE THE APP!” because they really want you in the grasp