• Sodium_nitride@lemmygrad.ml
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    12 hours ago

    Well, in this case, they do have a valid point, in that the growth that China experienced was due to high amounts of capital investment rather than innovation per say. And as we know from the labor theory of value, high amounts of capital investment comes from a correspondingly high amount of the workforce being employed in producing the means of production (rather than consumption).

    But to this point, there are 3 rebuttals

    1. Xi has made it a point to shift from factor based growth to innovation based growth
    2. An an underdeveloped country, China needs high growth in capital. The criticism about factor based growth only applies to fully developed countries. Lifting 800 million people out of poverty is proof that factor driven growth was the correct path for China to take
    3. China only became such a massive exporter of goods because the advanced capitalist countries de-industrialised. At the same time, these regions maintained high consumption due to imperialism. Chinese industry is forced to pick up the slack of America/Europe.
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      10 hours ago

      Rapidity of growth is based on starting conditions, available labor, available natural resources, AND the available technological state.

      When the starting conditions are making maximum use of available technology with the super majority of labor being employed towards the domestic economy, then the limiter to growth is the available technological state. Innovation in this case becomes the driver for growth as the delta between what is currently possible and what innovation makes possible is the domain of growth.

      But then the starting conditions are not making maximum use of available technology, when the majority of labor is employed making an imperialist leech richer, and when natural resources are dominated by imperialists, then the delta between current state and potential state is predominantly in labor, natural resources, and building known technological capabilities. Innovations cannot even be taken advantage of under those starting conditions, let alone developed.

      The idea that a peasant society should either innovate beyond the state of technology of the imperialists or else should be tributary states is really just a position that everyone should be tributaries because innovation under imperialist dominance is not feasible as a means of growing an economy.

      China’s shift to innovation is therefore not a question of strategy but rather if material conditions and the shift to innovation will emerge only in so far as it is made possible and feasible by labor participation in domestic enrichment, natural resource sovereignty, and development of globally-known technologies that lack uncertainties.

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        9 hours ago

        China’s shift to innovation is therefore not a question of strategy but rather if material conditions and the shift to innovation will emerge only in so far as it is made possible and feasible by labor participation in domestic enrichment, natural resource sovereignty, and development of globally-known technologies that lack uncertainties.

        This is exactly the case. China has developed to the point where it can seriously consider a change in priorities. Of course, the overall course is still to race towards prosperous socialism but with changing material conditions* come changing tactics.

        *the big one being Chinese labor becoming more expensive and Chinese industry becoming highly automated.