I have so many friends who would 100% be labeled as an incel if they were men. They hold men to impossibly high standards while meeting none of those standards themselves.

For example, women living with parents while expecting men to have their own place, women who are obese but are only interested in fit men, working part time while expecting a man who has a career, refusing to drive and expecting men to chauffeur them around, expecting men to have a variety of friends and interests while doing nothing but watching TV all day, etc.

The worst part is, calling out this inequality will 100% get any man labeled as an incel. We’re expected to either deal with it or be alone forever.

This is NOT to undermine the very real issues women have to deal with, for example the loss of bodily autonomy in the US. But this is still an issue worth discussing and nobody is talking about it.

  • Gigan@lemmy.world
    35·
    1 year ago

    The term “incel” was actually created by a woman and she was referring to herself. I guess social media and/or MSM liked it more as a derogatory term for men. But women can definitely fall into the same toxic mentality that men can.

      • some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org
        217·
        1 year ago

        Men are more likely to commit acts of violence, so…

        I’m a man, for context. I despise violence.

        • assaultpotato@sh.itjust.works
          161·
          1 year ago

          That’s immaterial to the statement you’re replying to - Women are more likely to cheat in relationships, so I guess it’s fair game now?

          • some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org
            17·
            1 year ago

            How the fuck does cheating compare to violence? If women incels talk shit and men incels shoot people, one is clearly worse than the other. I have no stats to back this up because I’m not terribly interested in this topic. However, I do defend my position that men are more likely to commit violence based on my own passive observations of news articles / headlines.

            • assaultpotato@sh.itjust.works
              10·
              1 year ago

              You’re batting 1 for 4 in sentences there bud.

              How the fuck does cheating compare to violence?

              Where did I say that?

              If women incels talk shit and men incels shoot people, one is clearly worse than the other.

              Yeah I agree, but that doesn’t mean that either are relevant to the conversation.

              I have no stats to back this up because I’m not terribly interested in this topic

              Your apathy is apparent.

              However, I do defend my position that men are more likely to commit violence based on my own passive observations of news articles / headlines.

              Correct, men are more likely to commit acts of violence. Would love to know where I disagreed with this.

              Let me give you a quick recap of the thread so far:

              1. “incel” was invented by a woman for herself
              2. it’s safer to say negative things about men
              3. men commit more acts of violence, so that’s fair
              4. those two things (2 and 3) are unrelated, I can cherry pick some immoral statistic where women are worse than men, so using “immorality” as an argument is not material to the discussion
              5. yeah but men commit more violence. Also, I don’t care about this at all which is why I instantly became disrespectful and started swearing.

              You see the problem here? Black people in the US commit more acts of violence than white people in the US. That doesn’t mean we should use that as justification for being needlessly derogatory towards Black people. Also, you should probably reflect on that whole “I don’t care about this” thing. Have a good one, I’m muting replies.

    • cRazi_man@lemm.ee
      3·
      1 year ago

      Derogatory term? I thought people who considered themselves painfully involuntary celibate used it as a self descriptor and formed harmless communities initially. It has now become affiliated with an extreme ideology a certain violent offshoot that has overtaken the use of the term.