My family are mostly Democrat voting liberals and I identified as one for years. When I was in 5th grade I spent more time with my Fox News-watching grandparents and became a Republican for like a year or 2 and became an apolitical lib for a while. From like 2015-2019 I was a Bernie bro who had some objectively shit takes. The biggest 180 I did was probably on the sex trade. I used to be for it as a horny teen like “huh? Did someone say SeX?? Well it’s all ConSeNsUAL so why cockblock someone from getting some PuSsY?” Obviously now I realize that’s a disgusting sentiment and that most people in the industry are not happy and would rather do anything else. Just because a few are happy with their line of work, it doesn’t make it right to force so many others into a position where they feel abused and humiliated or threatened. “Legitimacy of industry” in terms of prostitution always means lining the pockets of abusive pimps (physical or anything else) who will use the opportunity to get rich and usually fund illegal markets (source: Look at Nevada). Enough about me, what topics have become more clear to yall after becoming a communist? I could probably list a few others but I’m interested in seeing what yall say.

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    They’re doing it coz it beats driving Uber.

    Uber is abusive as fuck and the gig economy shouldn’t exist either.

    I think it’s problematic when the hate is directed at sex workers. They’re doing something for money, just like a brick layer, because they’re desperate to eat and find shelter just like all of us but the sex industry is abusive and extremely exploitative and it shouldn’t exist. Meanwhile the brick laying industry definitely should exist which is an important distinction that gets lost.

    If Uber and onlyfans cease to exist then the world is a better place, and using the humanity of sex workers as a human shield to defend their existence isn’t right.

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      The distinction one should make when analyzing these things are the relationships between the workers and employers; some pimps look after there workers and provide fair compensation, others go to impoverished 3rd world countries, go to the villages with suitcases of money and buy women for 500 dollars a person paid to the family and come back every year, then keep them as slaves.

      Ubereats and other associated apps all pay people below min wage and rely on a similar model of importing slavery to the 1st world; they are essentially sanatized servant apps.

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      If Uber and onlyfans cease to exist then the world is a better place, and using the humanity of sex workers as a human shield to defend their existence isn’t right.

      What’s your objection to OnlyFans? I mean, apart from objection we can make to anything under capitalism.

      It’s safer and more lucrative than most sex work. I know a lot of people who’ve switched from other kinds of sex work to Only Fans.

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        OnlyFans is the pimp. They take a cut out of earnings and yeah, that makes them pimps.

        Most “creators” (that’s what the platform calls them) make 10 bucks a year. Only a few ever make enough money to live on it. It’s like that on most of these platforms, we see the top creators but most people toil forever without seeing any revenue.

        The high-end, top earning “creators” are also no different from petty bourgeois earners. Those don’t want onlyfans or our attitude to porn to change bc their entire livelihood is based on the revenue they make there. To which I say, welp, tough luck when the revolution comes. The brick and mortar petty bourgeois will see his store seized and so will the onlyfans account.

        Creators also make custom content (maybe not all of them do idk) for clients. They become prostitutes by proxy of a phone screen, but still prostitutes.

        The screen proxy kind of obfuscates the nature of onlyfans but it’s still prostitution, albeit perhaps a bit safer because it happens on the internet.

        We’ve seen also with the Amouranth situation (though I only heard about it when it came out, idk what came of it) that some “creators” are trafficked into doing this. I assume there are many, many more trafficked “models” on onlyfans than the platform lets on.

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          Creators also make custom content (maybe not all of them do idk) for clients. They become prostitutes by proxy of a phone screen, but still prostitutes.

          A lot of Instagram ‘models’ or whatever are escorting on the side, using their social media to promote their work.

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            I actually looked that up for this comment, but not for Instagram specifically, and it seems most were escorrs/prostitutes before doing it on social. However it seems they also switch to OF if they can make enough money on it and ditch the escorts once that happens.

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          This isn’t emphasized nearly enough. Again, when people talk about sex work they gotta be more clear about who they’re talking about.

          We gotta make the distinction between sex workers and sex bourgeoisie in these conversations because mainstream liberal society just casually lumps the latter into some big tent where both the views of the pimp and their sex-slave are held on equal footing.

          Like I said in another comment here, there are some grey areas that add nuance to the discussions around this, but when it comes to who is exploiting and who is being exploited – that part is pretty damn clear.

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        The way i see it OnlyFans is basically crowdfunding for porn, predating on lonely people. OnlyFans creators are hustling lonely people out of their money, and the platform encourages them to do it by taking a cut.

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        Personally I dont have an objection with OnlyFans in concept or execution, aside from it doing that predatory youtube thing where it sells an idea of material abundance that is only actually avilable to 0.01% of users on the app; most onlyfans creators (90%+) make less than 700 dollars a month.

        Its the same issue with the music industry, it only rewards a tiny few people and gives scraps to the rest while selling a false idea of social mobility and monetary abundance.

        Basically onlyfans needs to unionize