Lists of crisis hotlines across the world: (Crisis Hotline) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crisis_hotline#Telephone_counseling
(Helplines, Suicide Hotlines, and Crisis Lines from Around the World) https://www.therapyroute.com/article/helplines-suicide-hotlines-and-crisis-lines-from-around-the-world
Never understood it all cause i’d sooner kill someone else than myself. Why would I kill myself? That seems strange. I would lose then, someone would win. Probably have some depression though, I mean I ought to have considering the theoretical state of things. No way I am gonna give satisfaction to anyone tho
No. I am going to eat my veggies, exercise daily to keep up my body as my temple, no drugs or alcohol and take care of myself. If only to show how much better I am than these fuckers. I will swim as they sink to the bottom. I will win and thrive at any price, at any cost. Some day I will drink tea on their graves, or just look at them with pity and compassion, throw some coin their way.
It is a dark souls game it all but you cannot just give up and quit to the desktop. no. we will crack that boss sooner or later and when we do, we will become more amazing than anyone can imagine. It is just a matter of time.
This is the view of someone who is slightly bummed out and not horribly depressed.
Some people have children murdered in war, damaged body parts, or people they love dead. Others have tried to date over and over, exercise and eat healthy, and are single virgins at 30 because no one finds them romantically attractive. Other people have extreme financial hardships while dealing with chronic incurable medical conditions like Huntington’s.
Don’t take this the wrong way, but for the people whose children were murdered in war, eating veggies may not improve things much. The desire to thrive at any cost usually only exists when problems are theoretically fixable. You can’t bring back dead children, someone who has lost a body part and has chronic phantom pain isn’t going to become a neuroscientist and solve that problem while in chronic pain.
I feel like platitudes like that “Just overcome it bro. Exercise and veggies and grit” don’t help the majority of people with severe emotional problems. Once again, these ideas seem like ideas that help you, the reader of that post, feel better about depression existing rather than do anything for people who are depressed.
But I feel like you are in good company because it feels like 90 percent of mental health posts and slogans are really “Your depression is inconvenient for me and society and your possible suicide down the line may upset me. We support you! Call this number so we can lock you up and drug you, then bill you $30,000 and force you to work even harder while drugged up so we feel less annoyed about your ennui and sorrow.”
Like I get that your transitory sadness has been something you overcome with tech bro grit, but tech bro grit doesn’t overcome most reasons for severe depression that results not in brief suicide ideation but like getting to the stage of “What method will work best for me?” when people start buying tools to help them die or coming up with timelines and rewriting wills and debating whether to try to make it seem accidental so as to not harm loved ones.
I am glad you have grit and this works for you. Keep pushing. I just don’t like the messaging in society that feels like this needs to be a solvable problem because others are annoyed or saddened by it.
well I have only myself and my view. I can just say what I think. I am sure there are many other. I am sure there are many tragedies over the world. I don’t have any effect on that. I cannot control that.
I don’t think there’s any advice here even other than just declaration of my experience
If your will to live is to “win” against other people, I’m glad it keeps you going. But surely you can imagine that not motivating everyone?
You for example, meliaesc, are a black box to me. I will try to find out who is the person I am talking to on the web and search for their posts just to understand what is going on. Who they really are and what’s their motivation. How they function and what values they have. Just to have a context in which I can interpret the message that otherwise is ambiguous. What is the real intent here?
Only through years passing by, trial and error and reasoning from the past I have learned that this is maybe not the usual style of thinking. That this inability to imagine what is going on in somebody’s else’s head or if anything was actually quite problematic a lot of times. Creating unnecessary divisions, sometimes even drama.
I have a natural ability to spark controversy that can be only restrained by carefully following most stringent of codes but I don’t bother with that on the web :)
I have problems imagining how other people think to begin with. That’s why I stick to programming. that’s way easier puzzle to crack than the extremely complicated human society. I prefer variables and functions to constant guessing games
I declare a constant and it has a logical and predictable purpose. That’s quite beautiful
Give me a random person and I am unable to even conceptualize what they think about me or if they think anything at all or even that they are indeed the same conscious people as me. It blows my mind on those rare occasions when I realize that someone sitting in the car nearby is actually an independent person.
So to answer your question. No I don’t think I can imagine that to be honest.