I cannot understand how some people are living with this. It is unbearable

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      You forgot the endless popups in the 2000s, which led to every browser integrating a popup blocker since then (and which often fail to stop actual malicious popups, no less)

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        Yes, in these years are a lot of pop ups, pop unders among other crap in some pages, but normally in most pages there was, apart of an ocassinal Banner not much else to justify an adblocker. But nowadays, between ads, clickbaits, cookie consent, adblocker detections and ant-adblocker, paywalls and other shit like these, you need a lot of extensions and scripts if you don’t want that the page fills your browser and HD with all kind of PUPs and unwanted scripts, apart of an ad/trackerblocker. It’s a cats and mouse game between companies which want to track and profile you with all kind of dirty tricks, and the user and devs continuos searching contrameasures to show them the middle finger.

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      Almost, but needs a few tweaks:

      • Content should be border-to-border in the 2000 panel.

      • Needs to be 3 lines of content in 2010 and only two lines of content in 2018.

      • 2018 needs a slide-over autoplay video on the bottom-left of the content space.

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      Me everytime i use a broswer without ublock. Ill open a link here in lemmy without opening it externally to firefox and dear god my eyes.

      Ublock makes the internet a better place. Or at least it shoves the bad stuff under the bed lol.

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      I always forget about my adblocker until I need to use a browser without one. It’s really pretty miserable.

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        I helped someone I know out with a thing on their computer and got blasted by ads because they didn’t use an ad blocker.

        Those two minutes on the Internet really had me questioning how anyone manages to use it raw without going insane.

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          Maybe if we tell them uBlock Origin is a condom for their browser, they’ll understand?

          What a sentence to type out

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            I see it that way. You don’t dive into some strange without protection, don’t let your computer do it with websites.

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              It’s always difficult with digital matters, since there isn’t anything tangible and concrete to show.

              Like, there’s no shady person following them with a notebook and reporting back to their boss all day, but that is kinda what’s happening, just invisible to the user.

              My pihole is pretty good at showing family how many connections their apps make are completely unnecessary to their actual functions. That’s a good illustration to start with.

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    As I recall, back in the late 90s there was a story in the Wall Street Journal about a man who loved receiving email spam. After a long day’s work he would go home and relax by looking through his email spam and order things.

    Some people are just like that.

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      I don’t like spam but I do like a good scam email, especially if they’ve actually given it some plot.

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      Tbh, I can relate to some degree. Sometimes I really love watching TV commercials. My favorite is teleshopping

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        Yeah, when I watch sports events from other countries it’s interesting to see the commercials, even if I don’t speak the language. It’s when I have to watch 20 minutes of the same commercials every hour that it gets bad.

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    I once had a user whose PC would freeze every time they tried to see their desktop. Like, you minimise something full screen and the PC would freeze for a few minutes and crawl while the desktop was in view.

    Turns out they had more than 4,000 items on their desktop.

    That day I learned where Windows puts icons that don’t fit on the desktop (it stacks them all on the first icon’s place, lol). And this wasn’t even the problem they called about! They were just grumpily blaming Microsoft and working around it for years.

    I guess my point is computer illiterate/belligerent people will find a way around the problems they cause and just blame something/someone else.

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        All the better to track you with so you have no choice but to agree and agree to their arbitration clauses if you want to use their and their competitors’ products with no alternative to avoid it. Sometimes you can’t even use the mobile site when so many services and businesses have flat out broken their mobile sites just to force the app. I don’t like DuckDuckGo’s browser but I use it to block trackers in the background.

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          This is correct. I use ddg for the same reason, and the “Desktop site” option for those little shits that broke their mobile site to force the app. If that option doesn’t work, I leave the site.

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            I found that Firefox mobile with adblocker solves 100% of my advlock issues, and usually fixes format and display issues with websites. Half the websites I view on chrome mobile don’t even fit on my screen anymore!

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              Last time I tried ff mobile, it was sluggish, and had no extensions. I’m guessing they fixed those issues? I like ddg mobile browser well enough, but I’d love to use ff on my mobile, too. And, yes, I did notice those formatting issues. I thought it was just bad design, but it’s the chrome engine? Interesting. Not at all surprising, though, but interesting.

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      Ah this brings back the memories of the race to close pop-ups as you can hear your parents coming home. For every one you close, three pop up to take it’s place. You can hear the key in the lock. Sweat pouring down your face you finally do it, you hit the last X and nothing new pops up. You have defeated the pop-ups… this time.

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      Yes, typical screens from these years, from a user who, as a newbie in the Internet, clicked on these beautiful banners and animations that were on certain pages with nice freeware stuff, screensavers, games, funny Powerpoints, etc… Nowadays these things do not appear and you can only notice that the PC goes every time slower and you know that you belong to the big family of the botnet community.

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    I have it on good authority, if you type Google into Google, you can break the internet.

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      Wait a minute, the “Elders of the Internet”!? The Elders of the Internet know who I am!? You’ve got to let me have it!

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        no no. The Elders of the Internet would never stand for that! The Internet needs to get straight back to Big Ben.

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    I used this scene in a cybersecurity training session. I knew it got the point across, when our resident ad-clicker asked me for advice to avoid that situation.

    E: she asked for advice for her home computer, as she didn’t understand that “at home and at work” meant “at home and at work with any device, not just work’s”

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    I’m noticing some sites have become pretty unusable on mobile and I dunno what to do.

          • I use Firefox on my desktop and laptop devices. I’ve tried using Firefox on Android. It’s slow, and breaks on some sites. If you use it, good for you. I’m not gonna use it just for virtue signalling.

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              I’ve never had issues with Firefox on Android, and because I use Firefox on desktop I can sync my browsers between devices

              Honestly I find it faster on my phone than chrome

              • I don’t know the technical reasons. Probably due to people optimizing their pages for Chromium, since it’s the de facto standard. Most pages load slower on Firefox for me. Chromium based browsers are usually better. Also, most websites of Indian government break for me on Firefox. It’s probably their fault, not Firefox’s. But I don’t want to deal with the annoyance. Everything seems to work most of the time on desktop, though.

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              Stop making things up to justify your poor decisions. Caring about privacy and security isn’t “virtue signaling”, its just a good idea.

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                Bruh. I do care about privacy and security. Otherwise I would’ve used Chrome or Brave. Stop acting like anything except Firefox is trash. (That is the virtue signalling part.) They’re not. I’d be happy if Firefox suited my needs on Android. I’m sorry that I can’t change my experience just because you say so.

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                  Firefox is very likely the best suggestion for people on android who have those concerns. I’m sorry it didn’t work out for you but that’s what you are seeing here, people reccomending the best option. No one is telling you can’t use whatever you want.

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      If you don’t need access to another VPN, Blokada does device-wide ad blocking on iOS and Android.

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    Literally the Windows Desktops+Applauncher / Mac Desktop+Panel of people making waaay more Money that I am.

    Like Mac really, who thought just piling up apps in an always shown panel is a good idea?

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      I have spent a lot of time around a lot of IT workers and I am literally the only person I’ve ever seen on a project that has an ad blocker installed in their browser.

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    I have a friend who has their entire center 5th of their laptops screen just dead. they move windows around it to deal with it. I look at the way they’re using their computer and like I can barely reach it at their window size but it’s better than paying the $500 MacBook repair to them

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    My former co-worker was daily driving his browser without any extensions and didn’t see anything wrong with it. I was watching him work one day and he was literally fighting a battle against the unholy pop-ups just tryna download some free fonts. What could’ve been done in 2 clicks took him minutes to do trying to close all the ads and tabs kept opening, videos kept playing. It was painful just to watch.

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      i got stuck on the second screen

      i’m not sure if what seems to be a poignant interactive demonstration of internet UX enshitification is shallow/incomplete or depends on javascript/trackers that my browser is blocking. it’s ironic either way

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        it might have js, I’m not sure. It isn’t the true modern web experience without 12MB of JS on a blog post/article, though :)

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      Oh god

      But seriously, my favorite are online stores for products, but you can’t buy their product because they have pop-up ads for other products that interfere with their websites you can’t actually view or buy their fucking product.

      It’s like, insane. And probably why Amazon still exists.

      At this point I just want the internet to go away