• Jimmyeatsausage@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Maybe we should have licensing and registration requirements for guns like we do cars… nobody on the “guns aren’t the problem” side of the argument is ok with anything like that either.

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      1 year ago

      Yeah i feel like most people would be down with that. Same with taking guns away from domestic abusers. John Stewart (the problem with john stewart) had a great episode on gun control.

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      1 year ago

      There is no license, class, physical or psychological examination, registration, age requirement, background check, or permit required to purchase a car.

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        There are licences, classes, examinations, registration, age requirements and permits required to actually use the car though.

        Also, cars have a viable purpose beyond being a weapon. Why are we trying to equate something whose main purpose is to transport but can be used as a weapon with something whose main purpose is to end life? If an object’s sole or main purpose is to cause physical harm, it should obviously be regulated more heavily than objects whose main purpose is not to harm, but can be used as a weapon in certain circumstances.

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          1 year ago

          To use the car on publicly-owned roads.

          I’m just clarifying why “treat them like cars” is a terrible argument.

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      I am on that side of the argument and im fully in favor of registration requirements, in fact I think anyone who wants to own a gun should have to undergo regular psychological, mental, and physical health evaluations as well as required to take a gun safety course. Not that I speak for everyone of course but I also dont think Im a minority in this situation.

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        I have an issue with psych evals: Ableism. Just because someone is depressed, has PTSD, has ADHD, whatever, doesn’t mean they don’t deserve the right to defend themselves. Furthermore it is currently federal law that if you are IVC’d under judge’s orders (which does require proof, but it is imprisonment short term and removal of rights for life, there should be proof), you now get flagged in NICs and can’t legally buy one, so at least we do have an acceptible version of this already.

        Also I’d like to add, it would be a good .2sec before republicans add trans people to the no gun list because “41% suicide yadda yadda” and the democrat party will pass it because “gun bad.” It’ll get snuck in like they always do, “oh you want psych evals, ‘no trans’ or no deal.” Then they’ll have to choose between trans rights and the right to own the thing that can defend those rights from would be right wing attackers.

        It is too easily weaponized against people already too stignatized, I don’t like it personally.

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        The counter argument to that is that it negatively impacts lower class people who are unable to take time off work to go do those things, thus disproportionately hindering lower class and minority rights.

        And the counter argument to that is that there should be enough safety nets in place to allow all people to be able to take time off work as needed.

        That would have people really confused. “We have to raise minimum wage to allow everyone the right to bear arms”

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          1 year ago

          So if working conditions improve, it would be appropriate to implement stricter voter ID laws?

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            Yes… but since the purpose of those laws is only to suppress turnout amongst the poor, I don’t think anyone would be trying to pass them if being poor didn’t make voting harder…the 2nd group most impacted are the elderly and they tend to vote for folks that want to suppress the poor so there’s even less reason to pass them at that point.

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              Suppress turnout amongst the poor [and consequently certain demographics that are disproportionately poor]. Take a look at the history of gun control and you’ll see a familiar pattern to voter suppression.