Always has been.
As someone using Firefox for basically ever, Chrome has always seemed like bloated garbage to me. Deleted it a while back and never looked back.
same story here
I switched about 2 years ago when I turned on sync. It’s just so reliable and fast, it’s simple and does its job perfectly. Frequently send tabs between devices and it’s instantaneous, bookmarks get synced immediately as well. Also they promise they don’t sell our data to advertisers which is a plus, though I can’t verify it and they could go rogue in the future idk. Also the fact that the browser is not intrusive at all is a huge plus. No annoying popups “try feature X” “login with your google account now” etc etc.
I do have some issues with it but that’s mostly because some people/companies don’t properly test their website on firefox. Also had an issue with its performance in the past, but now lately it feels as fast as chrome both on android and pc.
True debloaters use qutebrowser
browsh, that way you don’t need one of those pesky desktop environments.
I used Vimprobable for a while. But I came to miss some of the gui features.
In that case, you never got to use Chrome’s first versions. Because Chrome felt 20x faster than any other browser including Firebird/Firefox. It was later that it became a bloated beast.
I remember back then when people stop using FF because it used more PC resources than the OS itself and all started using Chrome because it was fast and lightweight.
Free resources are wasted resources.
Excessive resources usage is wasted energy.
I paid for the whole CPU, I’ll use the whole CPU. /s
Not necessarily. Using more RAM doesn’t increase energy usage, at least not significantly. And if you can use that to avoid making disk or network accesses, it’ll save energy. Obviously keeping the CPU spinning at 100% isn’t helping anybody, though.
If it forces you to buy more RAM, it does. I think most notebook laptops have had their RAM specified based on browser needs those past years as it became the main application by far.
That’s a good point.
I had my first website tell me today that I can’t access their domain on FF. It was Adobe. Fuck em
Please report the issue at https://webcompat.com/
You’re better off without them, for sure!
Maybe changing the user agent will work
me and mozilla go way back, to the days of netscape navigator. we’re old friends… even through the worst of times (aol ownership), i’ve stood by my best bud.
Lol, not me! I dropped that shit when it was the slowest, most bloated memory hog! Luckily, it’s much improved now, and is easily the best browser out there…
Firebird for me.
They went from Chromium based, to just Based.
I really want to switch back but… honestly: Chromium Edge, despite a few annoying features being shoved in your face, is actually a really nice browser IMO. It’s definitely going to take some time to get used to FF again.
I’m so used to things like vertical tabs, icon only bookmarks, etc… I know I can change a lot in FF myself, but having to add custom css and whatnot on every device I use FF on is just annoying.
Firefox Sync should keep all your settings and extensions synced for each install
I had custom css in FF and Firefox sync did not sync those manual edits.
There are tons of extensions for tab management for Firefox. If vertkcal tabs is just that they’re arranged in lines instead of columns, I’ve used Tree Style Tab and Sidebery, and there are many others.
Use the sidebery add-on, along with a vertical Firefox CSS theme = problem solved.
Switched last night and damn, Firefox has gotten so much better. Used to be the first browser I manually installed around 2004, until Chrome released around 2008 or something. I love that it has extensions on mobile and bookmark/history sync now.
Yup, uBlock Origin makes the mobile web actually usable!
Oh wow thanks! I didn’t know there were mobile add-ons. (I just didn’t check)
Yeah after they got the sync up and running it’s been so awesome. Welcome to the right side :D
One sneaky thing I love is the ability to put the bookmarks bar to the right of the search bar. Get a little extra real estate that way.
Switched from Brave to LibreWolf few weeks ago and I love it.
LibreWolf is extra blessed
Firefox is King 👑
you can pry the vivaldi tab management out of my cold dead hands
I’m not sure if the entire functionality can really be replicated, but Firefox does have a pretty good add-on selection, maybe you can find one that suits your needs.
Because this is not the first time I’ve heard about Vivaldi tab management, I looked over a couple videos and it really seems impressive, props to them for doing something really cool in this department. However I know myself, and I’d use maybe half the features that are present, most likely even less. If this is also true for you, I’m almost sure a Firefox add-on could be a suitable replacement:
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/tab-manager-plus-for-firefox/
https://addons.mozilla.org/blog/too-many-open-tabs-extensions-to-the-rescue/
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/sidebery/
At the end of the day you obviously don’t need to switch if you don’t want to, I would just be really amazed if it turned out the main tab mgmt features from Vivaldi were never added to an add-on.
You can just pry Vivaldi out of my cold, dead hands. No other browser comes close to its customisability. As long as it runs adblockers and sponsor block, I’m using it.
Amen brother.
Should show edge and brave in the corners
Just so that I can keep track of the score, I actually moved from Firefox to DuckDuckGo, because Firefox was considered not respecting privacy. This was not so many years ago.
Are we now saying today that the tables are turned? Or just that both are bad, but one is less bad?
Everything > Chrome/Chromium
The reality is that to the average user all browsers are the same. A lot of technologies have sort of peaked for regular people and browsers are one of those. There was a time when you needed plugins to do basic things like view PDFs or videos, to play games (flash, java) and there would be a new major change to HTML or CSS every few months etc.
That’s no longer a problem. All browsers are near equal in their ability to render pages. So people are naturally going to go with what feels familiar. We lost the battle for market share the minute Google decided to advertise Chrome on their search page.
Everything > Chrome/Chromium
Today.
Previously, it was Firefox > Everything, so that’s why I was asking.
ff forks like librewolf are based
ff forks like librewolf are based
Heard good things about Librewolf.
I’ve moved back to Firefox but damn it keeps mangling my streaming audio in some cases and there doesn’t seem to be a fix despite spending most of last night going through the limited solutions. Seems like this is a common problem for many Firefox users so Chrome will stay in play for some of these uses.
Previously Chrome did it all…
try librewolf, maybe it works :)
I love this meme! Haha
Friendship regain?! I cant believe!
Been using Firefox on desktop since it was called Firebird. I’ve jumped to different browsers on mobile, but Firefox on mobile has gotten a lot better since the last time I’ve tried it years ago, so I switched back to it recently.
Firefox on mobile has gotten a lot better since the last time I’ve tried it years ago
This is 100% worth repeating. FF Mobile was borderline unusable ten years ago compared to Safari/Chrome mobile
I remember my baseline was youtube back then. If the interface looked terrible, I wasn’t ready to switch. Then it started working as expected and the rest is history.
