• Lev_Astov@lemmy.world
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    10 months ago

    There’s a passage in the old testament that reads, “Though you soar like the eagle and make your nest among the stars, from there I will bring you down, declares the Lord” which sounds a lot like it’s saying even the stars aren’t out-of-bounds.

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      Because in traditional Christian mythology, heaven is in the sky. This was a very common belief in the area at the time, occurring in Roman and Jewish mythology as well. It was used as a sign of approval of the gods or deification of the individual.

      Similarly, hell is down.

      If you’re above the sky, you’re out of bounds.

      They could have just had him disappear while making an obnoxious noise, like the TARDIS. That would have avoided all of this confusion.

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        This was a very common belief in the area at the time, occurring in Roman and Jewish mythology as well

        Only Greek, Roman, maybe Jewish. Not Christian.

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          Millennia of Christian art, multiple biblical passages, and phenomena like the ascension form the basis of my statement.

          Heaven is up.

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        I mean I feel like the tower of Babyl story kinda proves that was the goal.

        Humans made a tower trying to reach the heavens so god fucked up our language.

        But he was perfectly okay with us building rockets and going to the moon.

        So either the tower of Babyl had already breached atmosphere when god shut it down or he wanted humans to stay on earth

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          You could argue the Tower of Babyl story is more about hubris. Even if it wouldn’t work, building it with the intention to physically enter heaven is hubris. Nobody is building and launching a Saturn V with the expectation that the astronauts are going to step off the craft in the middle of heaven.