• cerement@slrpnk.net
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    8 months ago

    the irony is that we wouldn’t need to sacrifice much (if at all) for those benefits – in other words, you could be completely selfish and still have a better life

    • US is sitting at 28 vacant homes per homeless person (city of Helsinki saved the country of Finland €15000 per person per year just by buying them a house)
    • healthcare for all (and better quality) would cost us about 2/3 what we’re paying now
    • we produce (and have) plenty of food for everyone but companies would rather throw it away if they can’t make a profit (John Steinbeck, The Grapes of Wrath)
    • better public transit means more convenience for everyone with the added benefits of better air quality, nicer neighborhoods, less wear-and-tear on infrastructure, cheaper commuting – [email protected]
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      8 months ago

      but companies would rather throw it away if they can’t make a profit

      Not just companies, I feel obliged to point out. The rot goes much deeper - independent farmers did the same at the time. The sickness is in society itself.

      Nowadays we just pay farmers not to farm.

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        Just pointing out that independent farmers throw out food that is unprofitable to sell. It’s not like they’re greedy or something. When there’s a lot of food transportation costs mean you can lose money sending your food to market.

        In that case no people are starving because food prices are very low. The problem in the Great Depression was that the conservative government didn’t want to intervene in the market and buy up the cheap food, so people did starve. This is part of the reason why conservatives lost power for twenty years.

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      8 months ago

      On the Finnish homelesness part: you’re spouting misinfo, knowingly or unknowingly. Our system doesnt buy houses or apartments to anyone.

      Every homeless person though IS offered a flat in a socially subsidized, very cheap price as part of a social program and/or place in a substance abuse coliving program-type of thing (not sure on the spesifics of those).

      Its weird how there’s so much misinformation about Finland in Lemmy these days, like were some magical egelitarian happy-land. No, we just pay our taxes and have built up a social security net, though thats actively being dismantled by our right wing government these days.

      Source of all of this: I am a finn.

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      8 months ago

      US is sitting at 28 vacant homes per homeless person

      This pisses me off so much. There should be an extra tax for unfilled housing.

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      8 months ago

      Yes, everyone having a better quality of life would elevate everyone who isn’t wealthy enough to isolate into a fenced off estate and has servants to do all their domestic tasks.