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      How the hell is he not in jail for forging documents? I guess he’s not forging legitimate documents, but he has the entire intent and sells them and tries to use them… Should be in jail on principle, and for selling fake goods.

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        Probably cause it’s not a forgery/falsified doc. It’s just pretend scribbles?

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          It’s still fraud. He’s selling something under false pretenses. He claims these work when they do not.

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            I guess that’s true. But if I sold you a license to perform spells and incantations, and you obviously never successfully do, is that fraud?

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              I would say it depends on the presentation and point. Are you a board game store selling it as a fun thing? A white elephant gift store? A cute gift shop in Salem? Yea, sell it all day.

              A horoscope reader upselling it to brainwashed idiots, literally trying to convince them it works? … Yea, that’s fraud. Might not be fraud you could get them found guilty of, since so many laws require a “reasonable person” to fall for it, but we all know there aren’t actually that many “reasonable” people…

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              Is he advertising it as a fantasy document? That’s the whole point of fraud: fair representation.

              If someone says, “Hey, you wanna’ by my last shit for $10,000!?!” and someone takes them up on it thinking there’s no way someone would ACTUALLY sell their shit for 10k… they’re totally fine selling, and that buyer is a moron with little legal recourse.

              However, if someone tells you they’re selling petrified dino turds and gives you a fresh human shit… yea, that’s fraud, even though both are selling shit.

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                Idk how this particular document is being sold, but the world government passport isn’t being sold as a fantasy document, that’s just how it is cited by the International Civil Aviation Organization