Edit: I want to say that if certain people weren’t dead set on trolling I would have engaged in the argument that the US is already authoritarian. I’m inclined to fully agree. The constitution was written by wealthy whites wanting to preserve their own power. They did sprinkle in some democracy and we do thank them for that. All this to say, that was never my contention.

Conventionally ideology is measured on a spectrum. If being moderately authoritian offends you, move the fuck left.

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        Don’t you love when the wikipedia article is just a webcomic reference? That’s why you have to use the wiki page for it, it’s a cumbersome overly online term for people familiar with Wondermark.

        Imagine using this in regular conversation or making an XKCD reference. I find you people quite embarrassing tbqhbbq famalama

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          The thing trolls never seem to understand is that it doesn’t matter if you’re being facetious or serious. Nobody cares whether you’re actually serious about whatever absurdity you spew. The function of a troll is not to communicate or convey anything worthwhile. It’s just humor below the level of a fart joke where you try to piss people off and laugh at them for being pissed off. And it’s not even clever. It’s just stupid. An effective troll would be nearly undetectable and ride the Poe’s Law line so well that others retain at least some amount of doubt.

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            The thing you’ll never understand is nobody gives a shit about what people who read Wondermark think. Have a nice day.

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              That’s literally the only comic from Wondermark I’ve ever seen and it was after I saw the term used a lot. That it originated with a comic doesn’t mean everyone who uses the term reads the comic. You assume too much.

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                Did I say you were their biggest fans?? 🤷‍♂️ My point stands. Besides, the comic is incoherent and you’re not even using it correctly lol? I’m not one of the parties being discussed. I am not an authoritarian in question lmfao. It’s an imaginary concept

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                …that’s why they asked you though, because everyone’s definition is a little different. That’s… Kind of the point of the whole thing you’re posting.

                From my point of view you’re the one who is trolling now.

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                  No it’s not why they asked. They disingenuously feigned ignorance so they could better frame their argument.

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                In contrast to Germany, the U.S.A. had a constitution which was democratic from the start. And its ruling class managed, particularly during the imperialist era, to have the democratic forms so effectively preserved that by democratically legal means, it achieved a dictatorship of monopoly capitalism at least as firm as that which Hitler set up with tyrannic procedures. This smoothly functioning democracy, so-called, was created by the Presidential prerogative, the Supreme Court’s authority in constitutional questions, the finance monopoly over the Press, radio, etc., electioneering costs, which successfully prevented really democratic parties from springing up beside the two parties of monopoly capitalism, and lastly the use of terroristic devices (the lynching system). And this democracy could, in substance, realize everything sought by Hitler without needing to break with democracy formally. In addition, there was the incomparably broader and more solid economic basis of monopoly capitalism.

                • Georg Lukács as quoted there
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                Oh noooo oh my god someone was disingenuous on the internet as a joke 😰😰😥😥😨😨😨😥😥😨😥😥😨 im going to curl up into a ball and die