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      How can Americans possibly be Americans if they don’t speak American?

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              If your views can only be propagated through violence, don’t you think they should be reconsidered?

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                If your views can only be propagated through violence, don’t you think they should be reconsidered?

                Please share this pearl of wisdom with the US government, if you’re successful you’ll literally save millions of lives and no one on the planet will ever be more deserving of the Nobel prize. Please also share this sentiment with the soldiers in question, they’re literally involved in killing hundreds of thousands when it’s not millions to supposedly propagate American views on freedom and democracy (but in reality installing puppet governments for geopolitical power or to facilitate the theft of natural resources).

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                  So crimes of our fathers then, Americans deserve to die. Pardon me, I don’t find this discussion constructive. May your keyboard warrior spirit never falter, good luck.

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                    You are still invading several countries rigth now. And messing with many others in lots of ways. That crimes of our fathers deffence only works if you stop doing it.

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                    Bruh they’re still doing it. Love how you pearl clutch and pretend they said Americans should die and not the volunteer soldiers currently killing to maintain this order.

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            I agree with your sentiment, but we should refrain from using these emotionally charged words. We must remain polite so that people reading this thread will get a bad impression of Hexbear.

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              I’m pretty sure they would rather use Taiwan as their name in Olympics if China allowed them to.

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              Haha you got me there! Guess that settles it.

              Question - do you know if they include Taiwan’s gold medal count with mainland China’s?

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          Chinese Taipei is not a place name. It is the name people in Taiwan use to participate in sports. Like it or not, the island is called Taiwan, whether they are their own nation or just a province of China.

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              I can accept you claiming that Taipei is a city in China, but the Wikipedia article you link to does not seem to agree.

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                But it does? I mean it’s a long article, I’m not going to read the whole thing for something this uncontroversial, but I’ll back up my very factual assertion with evidence from the opening paragraph.

                Taipei (/ˌtaɪˈpeɪ/),[4]

                This implies Taipei exists, thus backing up my assertion that “Taipei is” and “is”.

                officially Taipei City,[I]

                Since it’s named Taipei city, this is circumstantial proof that Taipei is a city.

                is the capital[a]

                Capitals are cities, this backs my assertion that Taipei is a city.

                and a special municipality of Taiwan.[7][8]

                Taiwan is a location in China, this backs my assertion that Taipei is a city associated with China if you combine it with the rest of the sentence. Technically it could still be somewhere else.

                Located in Northern Taiwan,

                This means that Taipei is on Taiwan, so now the information presented has changed from being associated with to being inside of.

                Taipei City is an enclave of the municipality of New Taipei City that sits about 25 km (16 mi) southwest of the northern port city of Keelung.

                This provides specificity in case there are multiple places named Taiwan, since we now also know it’s close to Keelung which is also in China.

                Most of the city rests on the Taipei Basin, an ancient lakebed. The basin is bounded by the relatively narrow valleys of the Keelung and Xindian rivers, which join to form the Tamsui River along the city’s western border.[9]

                This doesn’t provide additional information for my purposes, but they reiterate that it’s a city and in proximity to locations in China.

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                  Taipei is the capital and a special municipality of Taiwan.[7][8]

                  Notice the preposition of. They did not say in. If they used in that could mean that they think Taipei is in China. But they used of, implying that Taiwan is a country. They also used the word capital, meaning a city where the political center of a country is, not as in a “city”. There is (generally) only one capital in each country. Also, the text did not at all say that Taipei is in China. That Taipei is in China is what you (incorrectly) inferred from the text.

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                    Ah but Taiwan is a special municipality and has it’s own government. So this is expected actually. China is actually in a weird situation where there is a rebel government that controls a portion of the country, and they claim their capital is Nanjing. But because the regular government controls Nanjing they have a temporarily administrative centre in Taipei, since it’s the only large city under rebel control. So Taipei is just a capital in China, specifically the capital of Taiwan municipality, but isn’t the capital of China. China actually has many capitals. Hohhot, Lhasa, Nanning, Ürümqi, Taipei, Yinchuan and Beijing. (According to the rebels, it’s only Nanjing).

                    This is kinda besides the point of whether Taipei is a place or not though. You’re right, it didn’t say it’s in China. You need to click on the article for Taiwan or read further down for that. That’s why I mentioned that it has multiple place-names, so you could look those up on a map. They really should’ve mentioned where the city is, I think that’s pretty standard for an encyclopedia article on a city.