• RvTV95XBeo@sh.itjust.works
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      Specifically it was being made by Epic back when Fortnite was a PvE tower defense game. Once they started to dabble in the BR genre, they redirected all available resources to the money printer. Can’t say I blame them, but I was really looking forwards to the potential of an open source UT game. Modding scene was gonna be lit.

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        They’re making so much money with Fortnite they could pick up this project again silently and release a finished product to the fans that were let down.

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    Had Linux support too! (From day 1? Not sure…)

    I had a copy, and during undergrad I figured out that I could copy it over to /tmp on a computer in the University’s Linux cluster — no root required. They were high end machines at the time (Xeons with Quadro cards I think?), and UT2K4 played great on them.

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      I’m pretty sure the Linux support was on day one. I was running Linux back then and played it quite a bit and it worked great.

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      It’s still one of the only games I’ve ever been able to play with friends and will always be a treasured memory

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    I played it a few weeks ago. It needs a modern reboot tho with 8k and ray tracing but it’s still pretty solid. 1999 GOTY was the real jam tho

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    UT2004 was so good. So smooth and so much replayability, and then add mods and it’s even better.

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    I still break out UT99 with some mates via Hamachi from time to time.

    Arena shooters need a renaissance

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    They really fucked themselves with UT 2003 and 2004. Trying to annualize an arena shooter - a genre that lives or dies on its player base, and had years-old games still going strong - was an unforced error that killed Unreal as a franchise. I did not buy this game, because I felt like I’d just bought 2003, and it was a coin toss whether all my friends would make the jump even if I wanted to.

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      This 100%. The only thing that even makes arena shooters worth playing is having skilled opponents and teammates, without that it’s literally just mindless button mashing. When the player base goes away, the game dies with it.

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        Which is why it’s so fragile, and currently shattered. “Most people are not very good at video games and nothing demonstrates that like an arena shooter.” There’s barely a surviving niche because it’s multiplayer-only, high-speed, and low-latency, which means it can only be overflowing with players or stone dead. There is no middle ground. With the ridiculous skill gradient, bots don’t even work, because they’ll either feel like morons or hackers.

        I think it could be softened without fucking it up. Step one is to stop calling death, death. Say you got zorched to the nether-realm for a bit. It works the same as teleporters, because shut up. Shut up is why. You eat a rocket and magically appear in a big empty room sprinkled with weapons. You’ve got about two seconds to unfuck yourself and grab maybe half of that loadout before you spoink back into reality, unarmored and ammo-scarce. But you’d not slapped in the teeth, made to sit on your thumbs, and tossed back to the wolves with a gun that tickles.

        Step two is rewarding hits instead of just kills. Games should be fun even if you get utterly destroyed. They’re better if you win, but they should be mechanically satisfying every time you do a little thing right. That way it’s not a forced hyperfixation on some all-or-nothing zero-sum toxicity fountain. If you chip 99 health off of someone, and they hit you for 100, the score should not be 0-1. Surely more like 99-110. If you do 99 damage to someone, and a kill-stealing fucknugget does 1, the only thing that makes them a kill-stealing fucknugget is an asinine scoring system that gives them one point and gives you zilch. He can still be a complete bastard by sniping away all your weakened victims for efficient points, but he’ll have to do more than that to outpace the total of your hard work.

        Step three is outright heresy: regenerating health. But screwy. Health is not some to-the-last-drop resource. Health is a failsafe for when you’re getting your ass kicked so hard that you’re a pinata for someone else’s score. Getting bipped out of existence is a defense mechanism. Constant chip damage isn’t the same as a sudden massive beating, either, so it’s fine if your oh-shit-o-meter decays back toward “100 HP.” And since scoring is about damage dealt, some third party barging in is not the same kind of threat as whoever’s currently feeding you your own ass. So your “health” can be per-opponent… ish. Taking a kicking from several people at once is not much different from fighting one of them, except for the implication you’ve entered a target range for carnival ducks and morons. If a dozen players are peppering you with distant shotguns, none of them are running up the score at a very high rate, so fuck it, let 'em. Only your precious armor will reflect the embarrassing DPS you’re allowing.

        None of this makes the skill gradient lower. An embodied purgatory full of pickups directly rewards bunny-hopping maniacs by letting them respawn with more stuff. Map control isn’t changed in the slightest. Rocket duels can become rocket five-way clusterfucks with rapidly shifting incentives between ganging up and backstabbing distracted gangers-uppers. But if a complete newbie 1v1s the world champ, the score will be two thousand versus a couple hundred, not ten to zip. You can still compare with your noob friends who also got flattened by that guy. Oh wow, three-forty? That was a good railgun hit, before he turned you inside-out.

        Nobody sticks around to git gud if only being gud feels gud.

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    One of my most played games and the one I’ve lost ability to enjoy. Even UT99 and Quake games don’t make me feel myself as old and slow as UT2004.