• glimse@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    It’s not a reasonable ask because it implies that non-political games don’t exist. It also kind of implies that games didn’t used to be politic. And finally, it implies that having non-white male protagonists is somehow political.

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      8 months ago

      I think you’re reading more into “I want non-political games” than is actually there.

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        8 months ago

        I don’t think youre reading into it enough because every time I see people complain about politics in games it’s because it doesn’t have a white male main character. People were praising Helldivers 2 for not being political when it has a satirical fascist government running the planet in it but it’s okay because there’s no black or gay people in it since they wear helmets.

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          8 months ago

          I think you two are thinking differently about what non-political means. The other person probably just meant a game without overt politics and not what some others mean by it that you talked about.

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            8 months ago

            The satirical government in helldivers 2 is overt af. It is extremely on the nose and they hammer away at it with the spoken lines and propaganda. That game is fucking dripping with politics. That’s the point.

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                8 months ago

                I most certainly didn’t, I’ve never played it and know nothing about it other than recognizing it as the name of a game that’s quite popular right now.

                It’s kind of funny in a meta way how what I thought was an amusing little comment has blown up into an intense argument about the politicization of games (in an explicitly satire-related community no less). Thank goodness nobody jumped on the ambiguity I put into it as my attempt at humour and thought I was implying that wanting a white ethnostate was the reasonable one instead. Though I suppose seeing the thread fly off the handle in that direction instead would have been even more amusing in an appalling sort of way.

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                  8 months ago

                  I think on Lemmy it’s pretty common to go really into the weeds with political discussion on every comment.

                  “I like boats”

                  “Wow, uhm, let’s unpack the problematic bourgeoisie mindset behind your statement and how that reveals you are a racist, hate free software and probably kick dogs.”

                  “I just said I like boats…?”

                  “Oh you’re backpedaling now are you?!?”

                  It’s pretty funny tbh. I’ve had some interesting conversation because of that.

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                    8 months ago

                    It can be funny, but it’s also kind of exhausting. I often want to just chat about whatever the topic of the thread is, not end up in a verbal fist-fight over whether I’m a misogynist or whatever other imaginary offence that I’ve given through my random comment.

                    I guess I simply want the option for non-political discussion. And an ethnostate for deer.

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          8 months ago

          Have you heard of the Amarr empire? That’s an unwanted politic in a videogame.

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            8 months ago

            I understand it’s a faction from Eve online but haven’t played the game. Can you give more details about what makes you not want it in a video game?

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              8 months ago

              I’m just meming. Amarr stuff is plenty good. They just happen to be religious zealots and the perfect thing to rail on here.

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                8 months ago

                Yeah, fair enough. When I read about them I realized the reasoning could go in two opposite directions: hating having to deal with religious zealots in a game or hating the way the game is portraying the religious. Tongue in cheek didn’t occur to me lol.