• Yawweee877h444@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    Yeah I mostly agree with you. Except there was plot and lore in 2016, it was just minimalist as you said, but more importantly it was executed really well. It had the “doom” feel. In addition to awesome gameplay and soundtrack.

    Eternal was great for the gameplay, and even an improvement in some ways. The lore and plot was ridiculous though. Way overdone, didn’t feel like doom.

    I say go back to 2016 style with the gameplay improvements of eternal.

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      1 month ago

      No plot needed.

      To me the essence of 2016 is the scene in the beginning where an info screen tries to dump exposition on you and you chuck it into a wall.

      There is plot, but you don’t need to pay attention to it. Doomguy is angry and needs to kill demons.

      To me a big fumble in Eternal was trying to explain why doomguy is angry and so good at killing. He’s like an inverse Cthulhu, terrifying, unknowable and mysterious. Trying to explain or understand him breaks the basis for the character.

      On gameplay, I didn’t mind the changes, but I thought the embellishments were a little on the nose. The technicolor rainbow explosion of ammo when you chainsaw someone, and the increased focus on using abilities to replenish resources scream “This is a video game!” in a over the top way that I felt took away from the immersion and grit that I associate with Doom.

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        1 month ago

        Agreed on all points. I tried getting into Eternal a couple times and still haven’t finished it. It’s more than likely a good game but it doesn’t have the flow of the first.

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        1 month ago

        Yep, agree to agree here. I just thought the gameplay improvements in eternal were fun. But I agree the way you put it, kind of a departure from what doom should be.

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      2 months ago

      The lore and plot was ridiculous though. Way overdone, didn’t feel like doom.

      As opposed to a screen dissolve followed by a wall of text? I thought it was fine.

      I didn’t finish the DLC if it started going off the rails there, though.

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        2 months ago

        Nah my comparison is to 2016. I just thought it was overdone in eternal to the point of silliness. Subjective opinion obviously.

        It wasn’t all bad though. The introduction to the “evil twin” doomguy was kinda fun. So if no DLC you missed that at least.