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I love how this is painted entirely as the fault of people who chose not to vote, and not the fault of the Democrats who seem to try their best to run the shittiest possible candidate. If Democrats would have run a candidate that was worth voting for, maybe more people would have turned out to vote for their candidate.
The gap between Hillary’s popular vote win and Trump’s electoral college win is the biggest gap in US history. We’ve never had so many votes ignored. I agree with you the voters aren’t too blame.
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This community is designed to argue the system should be changed not which fascist sucks slightly less.
People from world don’t like that kind of thinking sadly
Liberals have no place here
Good. Just hope they don’t start a crusade against this comm like they do against others :(
A valid argument
Every nation has the government it deserves. Individuals, on the other hand, good people — they always get fucked. There’s no escape from the mediocrity and subhumanity of the masses.
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Or crazy thought you can vote third party
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Trump lost the popular vote in 2016. What more would you have us do? We’re past the point of voting being the only thing you have to do to resist, and we’re past the point of individuals being responsible for where we are. Levers are being pulled that the public and voters have no control over. If you’re not in an organization that opposes fascism in some way, you’re not doing enough.
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The point is, Hillary won the popular vote. By a lot. That’s the only thing that should matter in a democracy. We’ve been robbed of our agency and self-determination. We’re past the point where voting alone can make a difference. They won. They finished their fascist foundation, they have shielded themselves from accountability and consequence, they have given themselves the power of fiat at almost every level. This was always their plan, and it’s time we seize back everything that was stolen from us.
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You weren’t robbed of it, you never had it.
In 2016 Democrats ran a widely disliked neoliberal through a heavily biased primary and wonder why they lose.
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She was shady. She was manipulative. I saw it firsthand during the Iowa caucuses of 2016 when she sent out a guide on “how to run a caucus” with a bunch of stuff that was intentionally misleading to favor an establishment candidate.
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Not suggestions, misinformation. Like it lied about how a caucus should be run, lied about what happens in a disagreement, lied about how delegates have to vote. Like someone in our precinct ended up calling the Iowa DNC to confirm that information that Clinton’s campaign provided was wrong.
She’s generally dislikable. Calling anyone who doesn’t like her a sexist is an example of the attitude that continues to help the Republicans win elections.
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It’s clear that you didn’t understand the meme nor do you understand this community. I’ll make this clear, you cannot win in a rigged system. On top of that when the Democrats win we get jerks like Genocide Joe (btw any genocide sympathetic comments will be removed).
“BTW anyone who disagrees with me will be censored”
Great debate skills there, Hass.
This is NOT a debate community
We don’t want debatelords here
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The Democrats are complicit. The Republicans are at least forthcoming with their goals. “We’re going to burn this shit to the ground”. Whereas the Democrats are like “vote for this corporatist candidate that nobody likes or we’ll let the Republicans burn this shit to the ground”.
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It’s in the Democrats’ best interest not to take meaningful action against fascism because the only thing they really campaign on anymore is that they’re ostensibly not as bad as the other party
Just the way the donor class wants it.
This is starting to look like a thread from reddit or lemmy.world
Please read the sidebar and take care not to defend liberals or the US sham “democracy”
Yikes, some Liberals are not getting the message. I’ll make it clear
I almost looks like your “democrats” are not actually democrats…
It looks an awful lot like they want the same things as Republicans and are all playing an elaborate game of Good Cop/Bad Cop.
But if you vote Democrat you’ll
get a good economyget a president that isn’t incompetentget a president that will actively fight genocideget a president that won’t dump money into the military industrial complexget a president that will fight back against fascismget a president that won’t sacrifice all of their values in the name of “bipartisanship”- get a president who’s name isn’t Donald J Trump
That alone is enough to secure my vote for Biden, but it doesn’t feel much like democracy.
It isn’t, democracy is an illusion by the capitalists
Yeah, man. What it feels like is bullying. Take this thing you don’t want or we’ll let someone burn your house to the ground. Is basically an elaborate racketeering scheme.
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Wanna go ahead and count how many people voted?
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