• MisterD@lemmy.ca
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    5 months ago

    Yes if they don’t DEI it up like most shows these days.

    Incidental characters, new characters here and there, fine. A storyline where it makes sense, maybe.

    Half the crew? Um…no. Make one of the original characters go gay/trans for b.s. reasons, um…no

    Just focus on the story. Give us a GOOD story.

    • almar_quigley@lemmy.world
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      5 months ago

      lol, fuck off. Strange New worlds has a diverse cast and is a wonderful show. Lower decks, same thing. It’s totally doable. If you’re referring to something a la Discovery, the issue is poor writing for a typical Star Trek show, not that it has a diverse cast. Stop being a snowflake and watch some reruns if you can’t handle where society is going. “Can you believe I was made to look at a black person, an Asian, a GAY, AND a woman in a position of authority? It’s enough to give me the vapors!!”

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        5 months ago

        I think more to the other person point is it being needlessly prioritised, seemingly at the expense of quality writing/characters.

        Disco is a pretty choice example. The main character is frankly unbearable. Super unlikeable, overly emotional (despite being Vulcan) and frequently fucks up because she won’t listen or acts out of emotion. She is pointlessly insubordinate in an attempt to write her as strong but it inadvertently makes her incompetent and entitled. Everyone seems to cry, a lot, in the later season. The gay couple felt cheap and even unhealthy at some point, I think in the ep where one of them nearly dies, but unfortunately I can’t remember why. Didn’t really feel like ST just a show wearing its uniform.

        Hey at least it was super diverse though. Although as you point out, it is largely the writing that boned disco. Just feels like these shows prioritise being as diverse as possible and then jump to racism the second people notice or criticise the shows for it or unrelated elements.

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          5 months ago

          Super unlikeable, overly emotional (despite being Vulcan) and frequently fucks up because she won’t listen or acts out of emotion.

          Being a terribly written character has norhing to do with DEI.

          • almar_quigley@lemmy.world
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            5 months ago

            But core problem with Disco isn’t the diverse cast: it’s that they went for something that doesn’t fit with the genre star trek usually fills and have writers who aren’t good at writing sci fi or shooty shooty bang bang. This diversity thing is a total red herring for conservatives and otherwise sensitive folks who can’t accept that kind of change.

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            5 months ago

            I have no idea what that is, from media seems to be republican speak for “not excluding anyone that isn’t white”.

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        5 months ago

        The real issue with Discovery is that they fridged Michelle Yeoh so they could make Burnham the main character, a character they went to great lengths to show us is a violently xenophobic mutineer, and yet who is still somehow more open minded than nearly everyone else on Discovery.

        Star Trek is supposed to be woke and Discovery wasn’t. Having a black main character doesn’t make a show woke, actually promoting social progress makes a show woke.