• Throwaway@lemm.ee
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    9 months ago

    Wow, it actually says “whites only”. This isn’t some case of someone waking up angry and tweeting about christian mingle or someshit, its actually just racist.

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      9 months ago

      Yes, racially exclusive associations are gross. Same with events that exclude attendance based on sex/gender. We are all people.

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        9 months ago

        Same with events that exclude attendance based on sex/gender.

        There’s a time and a place.

        For example, a “women’s only” group may be for a group of women who are healing from a sexually violent relationship, so they really don’t want to see men there.

        But a parent and child group that excludes races? That just a gross kind of bigotry.

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          I get what you’re saying, but bear in mind that women can be both in relationships with other women and those can also be violent.

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            Of course, there is nuance, but I was giving an example based on what I know exists and why.

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          they really don’t want to see men there.

          That’s just sexism though

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          ITT: a bunch of replies to the above from men who don’t get what the problem is.

          Big “not all men” energy. =/

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          For example, a “women’s only” group may be for a group of women who are healing from a sexually violent relationship, so they really don’t want to see men there.

          “Maybe that whites-only parenting group could be healing from some trauma caused by POC and they don’t really want to see POC there.”

          Do you see the problem? A POC causing you trauma is not a good reason to reject POC people in general, and a man causing you trauma isn’t a good reason to reject men in general either.

          A group dedicated to victims of domestic violence could easily encompass both men and women who have suffered from it, whether the perpetrators were men or women. Cis & trans, it bears saying.

          A person who has a blanket phobia of people of a particular gender or ethnicity needs therapy to address their sexism/racism. “I don’t feel safe around men” has the exact same energy as “I don’t feel safe around black people”.

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            “I don’t feel safe around men” has the exact same energy as “I don’t feel safe around black people”.

            lol how to identify a dude on the Internet

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              lol how to identify a dude on the Internet

              Is that the best argument you can put forth against what I’m saying? I can give you some more ammunition: I’m queer, disabled, atheist, an immigrant and vote green. Or perhaps those are collectives that you don’t feel comfortable discriminating openly.

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                That was not an argument, don’t know why you’d think it is one.

                I just found it amusing

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          The women’s only group isn’t necessary

          All SA victims are valid regardless of gender