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Dawn of War 1. Better yet just computerize table top. I’m antisocial :(

I was a really young nerdy kid, and coming from the Soviet Union like the only thing I cared about was computer. I was obsessed with computer since playing Doom as a kid in a cyber cafe. I got my first computer at the age of 8-9 after we had immigrated. I was about 10 years old when I was trolling AOL chat rooms by myself… and I had a lovely 640x480 web cam… and yeah. A lot of this brings up uneasy memories.

I think the horny categorization does fit me. I’m not like a gooner or anything but my partner would agree 100% with the statement: “thinks I’m about to pounce on them and always waits for me to initiate everything. Why people basically see horny as one of my personality traits.”

I don’t experience issues with non-sexual intimacy, but I wanted to let you know that you’re not alone!

I agree with all of this, but I think it acknowledges the reality of the limitations that they themselves see in their show and the ennui they’re really exhuding in that article. I don’t disagree that the show is “stale” in terms of entertainment value. I still listen because I am a freak, and I am privileged enough to have the bullshit minutea of the ruling classes public letters be my entertainment. It’s the same way that politics is just hollywood for ugly people. The reality of Chapo is that it’s broad appeal is where the comedy is the cope for the contemptible reality. I think for a lot of ride or die leftists Chapo is a staple because a large portion of the comedy comes from the contemptible reality itself. Think horror comedy (Bodies Bodies Bodies, comedy from contemptible reality) vs comedy horror (Tucker and Dale vs Evil, comedy as cope for the contemptible reality). Plenty of my more normal friends who are still left wing describe it as a “doomer” show. Plenty of these people have also realistically disengaged with politics on any “serious” level, their political understanding has shifted to NYT class party goers where it’s just required knowledge to mingle and show class virtue, but without the neoliberal underpinnings.

Amazon likely has phrenology style stats they’ve been waiting to unleash on their recruitment practices.

he believes it would actually change things if the facts came out and it was actually the CIA behind it

Ah yes the classic “force the vote” argument.

For all of Nick Mullen’s faults, he is very self aware of the absolute luck and craziness of his economic position. He is actually fairly open that he basically didn’t do any real work for CumTown and only did real work for his T Shirt business. Not many people who have the same mental health problems as him can make it in life and he really gets that. I think a lot of people who grew up in working class families have real lived experience with that kind of stuff but people from middle/upper middle class families tend to have this ennui that prevents them from understanding that they already live extremely well in context. They demand to be seen by the broader culture as the gifted kids they think they are. The Pendejo Time guys and the Street Fight guys have a similar working class mindset but are less “online” and shitty. From the stories I’ve heard from all people I think the separating factor is that Chapo style guys main disappointment with their parents seems to be political differences or how their parents think. For everyone else their main disappointment from their parents is neglect/abuse due to socioeconomic status, mental health issues, etc. Brian is a great dividing example, his parents were really shitty conservatives that forced him and his siblings to live in a bad way as a kid, despite having the ability to provide. And it was purely based on their political ideas. His father was a computer engineer in the US midcentury, Brian admits he was absolutely loaded but didn’t spend on his kids money as a political thing to “teach them a lesson”.

Stavros is secretly a hard working dude. His whole failson thing is clearly a persona. You don’t own a house in your 20’s being the son of middle class Greek immigrants without working hard. Stav clearly secures the bag, and unironically does it in the “old world” way where half the time the people he hires to help are like his friends/family.

The Chapo hosts - save for Matt - kind of seemed to be lottery winners who just lucked into their success and fortune and have ceased to grow as people as a consequence of their fame and profit. Their reference about the “failson” encapsulates their status as hosts. Just frozen… in Arrested Development.

I completely agree, but I also don’t see it as a bad thing. They are clearly ashamed of it and think society should be different, but they also do have the tendencies to play into the personal psychology of it.

That’s why they tend to gush about media where the main character has already objectively won but cannot bring themselves (usually he/him) to being happy with that because they didn’t win on their terms in the exact way they wanted to win even if in their way/on their terms they’d claim a lesser prize. That’s usually the pinnacle story archetype that they will have sincere love for a piece of media for. Sopranos is a perfect example. Billions (which greatly expands the trope such that women can have this predicament too as if Hillary Clinton isn’t real) is a perfect example.

That’s always been a lib cop-out in my mind. “Do something fulfilling!”. Wow yeah uhh I live in a commodified atomized capitalist hell scape what’s fulfilling and can keep me alive? Not much.

That would be cool. The difficulty is finding them. It reminds me of the arguments about “why are older people more conservative?” and the answer was never “cuz they have stuff”, the answer was always “The people who could develop leftist politics of helping people organically tend to die earlier because they need the help. The people who hoard wealth don’t get exposed to that organically and only get exposed to right wing crap.”.

The other thing is that a lot of people who espouse “leftish” views get beaten into right wing bullshit especially because they get exposed to managing workers and producing in groups in an explicitly right wing context. For example many people in “good” jobs don’t realize that there are essentially no incentives for people in “bad” jobs.

Honestly I think people really need a “how companies actually are” podcast. I think a lot of people don’t realize just how fucked middle/upper management is. The problem is it’s essentially career suicide. Like lets say that I worked in a company that was fairly notoriously bad, and lets say I drop a little bread trail of clues here that I deleted because I decided it was a bad idea. I’d love to give people working examples of how the shit sausage gets made from my career.

It’s Vector lmao. JK or am I? I am. But side note I know a woman from highschool that worked as a Vector recruiter for YEARS and got to management in the company. I always really wanted to ask something to the effect of how being a camp guard for gullible teens is, but nicer so she actually tells me. The company I worked for was waaaaaay worse than Vector. Like one step below private military contractors but for policing undesirables internally and hey they were only the logistics provider, says I, a camp guard.

But for real though, I left before the really bad shit happened (but I still asked my old co-workers about it) but the writing was on the wall because not only were they connected but they were the real deal work you to the bone type capitalists that used the specific culture of this industry as a way to squeeze production out of people. I think people need to be able to understand those kinds of situations rather having to find themselves stuck in one, and try to navigate out. Especially high earning white collar dullards because they really don’t understand the extremely atomized, depersonalized and corporatized version of the middle age McDonalds manager screaming in your face type of job. it has the same kind of structure, everything is quiet for a little bit and then there’s a calamity. But instead of the calamity being a 50 year old berating you for being the same exact kind of loser they were at your age, it’s anything from incompetence to forgery to theft to drug scandal to sexual harassment scandal to nepotism based hijinks.

But people listen to them who are real workers, just make a call, small screening that a person can talk and can use skype or whatever, and go to town with random stories of the 80s railway. Even wtyp manages to get some stories from workers.

I don’t disagree with you, but you are describing something that’s real work. It’s a lot easier to call in your buddy who just so happens to write the articles about the thing that happened.

It’s about bosses doing random bullshit annoying you, people helping out to deal with it whatever

Yeah they kinda lose credibility here. Brett and Brian worked shit jobs all their adult life, had kids, were struggling in Ohio and made a precarious pivot to podcasting. Chapo all had middle class jobs in global cities and just quit to do a podcast. The most credible one is Amber and she’s the least liked one other than the pedo.

Also you gotta think about if that type of content has legs. At the end of the day the quality is going to devolve to listening to a specific person’s workplace drama rather than actually learning about something. Even Brett and Brian stopped doing a lot of those calls towards the end of Street Fight because it ended up people just venting about minutea and their asshole boss.

The kind of podcast you’re describing I think would be extremely good, but extremely hard to pull off because you’d need to have people who can speak on record about the failures of their industry, about organizing, about things that happened to them in their job. That stuff is important but it also needs a good quality filter and a dedication from hosts and guests that is more geared towards investigative journalism rather than some guys on a mic.

TrueAnon has some episodes like this especially with Brace being at Anchor Steam during the union drive, and also about some California music production studios.

In order to know real workers, you need a real job.

I originally posted the article content, and it had an embedded video to the Rogan endorsing Bernie video from 2016.

Definitely a blow to the show there,

Honestly I gotta disagree. I listened to Bad Faith for a long time, even after Virgil emigrated to Epstien Island. Virgil and Briahna kinda worked to exacerbate their worst political impulses. It ended up just exposing how lib they were in their political thinking. A lot of it was just “vote math” and “if only everyone knew they’d make the right choice” style arguments.

If only that was the most embarrassing thing to happen to Briahna Joy Gray since 2016.

This one is hit or miss for me, sometimes they don’t fix the JS paywalls for months. I fixed the link. :-)

Hey thanks for telling me. I pushed a copy of the text here

Here’s the full article

lol, way to boost the podcast you’re trying to claim is irrelevant.

You obviously didn’t read down to the billboard.

I still listen but my personal respect of them went from dogs to lower than dogs.

They became the very thing they hate, Ben Shaprio style failed screenwriters who couldn’t even get a show on NETFLIX. They have an extremely commercially successful podcast that they admit they barely do any real work for, and the profits that essentially make them set for life. Take the W. Stop being this pathetic where you have “need” to be “somebody”.

It’s hilarious that a paragraph later they basically complain Virgil wanted to be “real” pundit.

They decided to paper over their treat-like demands for Californiacation by pretending that they’ve become community minded. This is the classic comedy setup of an outsider moron having a crisis and deciding they’re going to be more community minded by checks notes invading a community other than their own. I also remember Amber’s rant about how she’s from the midwest so “community” is not in itself a virtue, because her town had community, but the community was shit. She complained heavily about the overcorrection of New England style longing for “community”, and yet she leads the charge to this shit?

It’s incredibly funny that they pulled Jake Flores in for a quote, and didn’t metnion during the same period as Virgil’s Sex Offense Scandal it was coming out that Jake Flores was literally sexually abusing a woman with downs syndrome. That guy is not only a moron, but a complete grifter. They should have asked Nick Mullen for a counter quote about Jake.

I guess now we know the fully story of why they were so heavily invested in the Hasan Abi Los Angeles House Defense Fund.

“Don’t say yes to Nazi accusations.” weird sentence already then replace yes with Rudolf Hess.