• Kalkaline
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    3 months ago

    Jill Stein is not a viable candidate, that leads to Trump being elected.

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      3 months ago

      Voting only leads to fascists being in office. Also, it works according to you. May be you just want fascists that are nice to you like Hitler was to Blondie and mean to Palestinians like Hitler was to Jews.

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      3 months ago

      Because of the way the Electoral College works, this can only be true if you’re voting in a swing state, otherwise your vote is completely irrelevant, instead of almost completely irrelevant.

      I’m not one to make moralist arguments on how to vote. I’m not going to say that a vote for Harris is a vote for genocide. Voting in bourgeois elections in general, and for bourgeois parties in particular, have limited but real tactical utility*, one of which is short-term harm reduction. If you live in a swing state and want to tactically vote for Harris as harm reduction, I think there’s an argument for that. But it’s important to appreciate the severe limitations of bourgeois electoralism.

      *Marxists have written at length about their limited tactical uses since before the October Revolution over a century ago.

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        3 months ago

        Tactical use of parliamentarianism is really only practical when you have a vanguard party that’s somewhat widely supported by the proletariat. We don’t have anything like that in the US so the focus should be on propaganda, building class consciousness among the proletariat, and making that vanguard party a reality. The election has zero bearing on this whatsoever besides providing opportunities to help people realize that their beloved democracy is in fact a dictatorship of the bourgeoisie.