• PugJesus@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    Not sure that it proves horseshoe theory so much as it proves that Jill Stein in particular is a gutless wretch and a puppet without principles, and that 3rd parties running for the presidency in the US are deeply unserious.

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      2 months ago

      I think if a third party were deeply serious about wanting to establish a viable political movement. They’d try building up at the local level first, the presidency should be one of the last steps of becoming “legitimate”, the unsexy local elections are where you build up support at being treated as a serious political movement. Instead, most current third party runs tend to feel like either spoiler campaigns and/or vanity campaigns, where I’m not even sure what good it would do them on the miraculous chance they happened to win the presidency, since third parties in general don’t have much presence in Congress. There’s like four “independent” members of Congress right now, good luck getting any of your third party platform initiatives done with likely no Congressional support.

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        My thoughts. When I run it will be as a independent or Ill start a party. But we will start by running for city council and mayor and small government positions.

        That how you build a movement Bernie Sanders said they only way to change the system is from the bottom up.

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        It’s impossible for an environmental party to compete with the campaign money pumped into dem and rep campaigns by corporate & billionaire backers. Billionaires make sure that only big business friendly candidates have a chance. Green party candidates do run for lots of seats but their is no big money support for their cause and money runs politics.

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      2 months ago

      The whole thing is money, all the way down. It’s only slightly different from rooting for your favorite sportsball stars until the electoral college (among other things) is brought into the modern age. The sooner these Cold War relics are out of office worldwide, the better our entire species’ chances get.

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      2 months ago

      Russia is doing this to fringe parties all over Europe – it simply doesn’t matter to them whether they are left or right or whatever. So you get communist, leftist, fascist and populist parties all repeating Putin’s phrases. And in this case, the green party’s candidate.