Remarks come amid criticism ex-president tried to exploit storms with lies and disinformation to gain edge in race
  • TimLovesTech (AuDHD)(he/him)@badatbeing.socialEnglish
    21·
    5 hours ago

    Saw a video with a clip from a podcast last night where a guy called in because his father-in-law wouldn’t apply for the FEMA money in NC because he believed Trump and his conspiracy theories and thought if he applied they would take his house. The son-in-law lives across the country and didn’t know what to do, as his father-in-law is sending messages to family stating that he has no food or supplies and doesn’t know what to do. But this same man said he believes Trump and would not under any circumstances except any aid from the government. They tried send him articles from FEMA and fact checkers debunking Trump’s lies, but the man is part of Trump’s cult and is waiting on Trump to save him.

    Emotional North Carolina Man Blames Trump for MAGA Father-in-Law Refusing Hurricane Help Over FEMA Conspiracy: ‘It’s A Cult!’

    • Kalkaline
      16·
      5 hours ago

      I don’t have much sympathy or effort left for these people. They lived through the 90s and the golden age of internet scams, pop-ups, viruses/malware, they saw all the mega church pastors hit with lawsuits for scamming their followers, if they can’t learn from that, there’s not much else I can do.

      • TimLovesTech (AuDHD)(he/him)@badatbeing.socialEnglish
        112·
        5 hours ago

        The thing you have to remember about a cult is that nobody seeks them out, and nobody knows they are in a cult until it is to late. These are people that got caught up in something they saw someplace online likely, and once they started down the rabbit hole it was to late to go back. And the like most all cults, Trump actively reinforces that everyone outside of the cult is a danger to those inside the cult, and that leaving is to dangerous to themselves, loved ones, America. And from the outside it’s easy to see they are being fed lies non-stop and nothing Trump says is true, but inside the cult bubble the lies and conspiracies are reinforced constantly, and the “threat” is always increasing.

        … if they can’t learn from that, there’s not much else I can do.

        Correct, it’s going to take a mass therapist program to help bring these people back to reality because they have been conditioned against looking outside the cult for almost 9 years now. Trump isn’t going to go away and they just deprogram overnight, this is going to be a long term issue for the US going forward.

    • TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee
      8·
      5 hours ago

      Well, now his kids are going to get his land when he dies of starvation.

      Life is hard.

      It’s even harder when you are stupid.

    • EleventhHour@lemmy.world
      144·
      6 hours ago

      Water is, in fact, not wet. Like any liquid, it can only make wet what it touches/soaks. Wetness is a property bestowed upon other things (primarily solid objects) which come into contact with a liquid, but not the liquid itself.

      And, no, adding water to water doesn’t result in “wet” water— just more water.

        • EleventhHour@lemmy.world
          2·
          4 hours ago

          Correct.

          This might make for a good allegory for how water isn’t wet. Strange that I hadn’t considered this before, but thanks for bringing it up!

      • Zombiepirate@lemmy.worldEnglish
        73·
        6 hours ago

        Why doesn’t “wet” count if the liquid is in contact with other liquid molecules?

        Sounds like special pleading to me.

        • EleventhHour@lemmy.world
          43·
          5 hours ago

          Wetness is not a property which can be applied to a liquid— only a solid which has come in contact with liquid.

          Adding liquid to liquid just makes more liquid, not “wet” liquid.

          Now, I suppose there could be rare exceptions to this— if an especially viscous liquid were able to produce a surface upon which another, less viscous liquid might make contact with, then that would result in “the surface of X liquid is wetted by Y liquid”— but, even then, the property of wetness only applies to the semi-solid/liquid surface (a property similar to a solid), and not because they, say, mixed. Mixed liquid just form new liquids, compounds, etc. not “wet” ones.

            • EleventhHour@lemmy.world
              53·
              5 hours ago

              The explanation was in the original comment. I simply clarified due to your misunderstanding.

              Look, this is a mix of both logic and linguistics (which isn’t always logical). Even if it doesn’t make sense to you, this is how it is. I suggest that you accept it, however, if you refuse to accept it, the next logical course of action would be to invent a new word which describes liquids touching liquids. Most would call it “a mixture“, but people like you are often unsatisfied with anything you don’t make up yourselves.

              I look forward to hearing what new word you may come up with.

                • EleventhHour@lemmy.world
                  63·
                  5 hours ago

                  To repeat: I already gave a well-defined reason in my initial comment. It’s your choice whether or not to accept it.

                  I suppose being overly contrarian and argumentative might entertain you, but I’m not going to indulge such childishness (or, perhaps, ignorance) further.