You’re old, straight, white and rich, motherfucker – YOU’RE going to be “ok.” Everyone else is fucked.

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    Right? I found pre-election solace in knowing that even though his cult will never turn on him, he couldn’t have possibly gotten MORE supporters in the past 4 years.

    Turns out they LOVE the hate and they want more of it.

    Sorry, Mindless Americans, it’s not Trump’s fault anymore, it’s YOURS.

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      Republicans actively work for an uneducated population they can rule. That’s the root of this problem.

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        The research is out, more educated people are more likely to vote Democrat, but if you ever point that out, all you get back is “I know YOU are, but what am I?”

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      That’s what I’ve come around to. It’s not him. He’s a figurehead that we apply blame but it’s not. It’s the people - the public. They want this. They have the fear and the hate, they actively want it. If America didn’t want him, they wouldn’t have voted him in. Even with tampering/whatever, if America didn’t, he wouldn’t be there. But America does want him, and that’s a very sobering and sad thought to me. I try to live with a simple code - do what you want, as long as it doesn’t hurt others. I learned yesterday that most American’s don’t have similar values.

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        IMO that’s way off base. People want change. They know they’re getting screwed, and the grifter is promising change. He’s lying and I think most people know that, but the fact that they’d take a convicted felon over what the DNC offered up is a crushing repudiation.

        Bernie would’ve mopped the floor with Trump, because he also offers change. Someone like Obama would’ve too, even though there was a paucity of actual change during his terms.

        We need to drag the DNC kicking and screaming off of the corporate dick it’s sucking, and get it left enough to offer real change, and people will vote for it in droves.

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          Part of me blames the collective memory loss of the COVID years and a complete lack of understanding of cause and effect.

          It’s like everyone forgot there was this massive global pandemic which absolutely killed entire industries. And even though the important parts were propped up during the lean times by government support, that support ended eventually, with the economy still a mess that couldn’t just be put back together like nothing happened.

          I mean, people at that time didn’t even have a concept of what was going on. They have no idea how much money was spent keeping the lights on. People lost their shit over the billions it would cost to forgive student loans, but had no idea how many more billions were already spent on—and abused by—businesses whose pandemic loans were forgiven by the government.

          Everyone forgot the pandemic was only as bad as it was in the US because it was so completely mishandled by the Trump administration. We could have had everything back to normal a lot sooner if there was even a little bit of national preparedness, not to mention if we didn’t have all the misinformation spread by his own administration.

          So when the economy went to shit in 2021-2022 during the Biden administration, people shrugged their shoulders and put the blame on the old man in the white house, despite the fact that it’s been on a recovery trend during this last year. And so Trump’s first year is going to start with stronger markets, he’ll get the credit, and then things will get worse just in time for someone else to take the blame for it.

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              Do you have figures that include 2024? That data seems to stop at 2021. Not saying you’re wrong but the picture being painted is just Biden’s first year as president during the height of the pandemic.

              Comparing things like rates of inflation and the consumer price index, we see the numbers drop dramatically within the past two years, which seems to have been improving cost of living somewhat (or, ruining less quickly, at least) for the average American, though there is still a lot more to be done.

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        Apparently people see him as the strongman lesser evil who’s gonna bring back economy, “fix” illegal immigration (both of which the current administration has done), and keep status quo on energy and abortion. I blame the Democrats for not campaigning on their successes.

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          They DID campaign on their successes, but nobody believed that anything had gotten better because they still couldn’t afford groceries.

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            The food scarcity percentage (sometimes or often not being able to afford groceries) is down 1%, but yeah it might not be noticeable. I don’t think Harris’s campaign did anything substantial on the other economic stuff, though. In trying to campaign a message of change, it seems like they neglected their incumbent successes and failed at both.

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      I’ve tried talking and that doesn’t work, I’ve also tried being kind and all that shit no dice. But everyone gets upset when I say let’s shoot them, so please tell me more about how it’s my fault.

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        I’ll say it for you. Thomas Crooks was THIS close to being an American hero.

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          Ah yes, openly advocating murder of your political opponents. Keep telling us how you have the moral high ground.

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            Nobody seemed to mind when Hans Gruber fell from Nakatomi Plaza.

            Or when the Wicked witch of the West got splashed with water.

            Or when The Death Star exploded.

            And I don’t give a fuck how rapists and felons, and the people that defend them, feel about what I say.

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              You forgot all the failed Hitler assassinations, nobody cried over those either

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                Yeah, I was trying to avoid THAT example because it’s become too cliche at this point.

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      I’ve tried talking to trumpers to point out the double standards, contradictions, and outright lies. They don’t listen, just ad hominem or whatabout out of it.

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        So much whatabout. Are they actually convincing themselves this way, or do they realize it’s stupid but just don’t have anything else to say?

        Trump sexually assaulted people and was convicted of fraud.

        Whatabout Hillary’s emails and Hunters laptop?

        First off, those people aren’t running for president AND it’s not fucking RAPE AND FRAUD!!!