• JayTreeman [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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    14 days ago

    So Hezbollah, a part of the Lebanese government, agreed that Israel should withdraw completely (after prominent Israeli officials said all of Lebanon is Israeli territory), the UN will watch over the south of Lebanon, and that they want the Lebanese army to have more of a presence in the south as well. They agreed to completely withdraw, and they want the Lebanese to fortify the area. And this is a Hezbollah loss?

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      Yes it is, because the Lebanese army is both unwilling and unable to stand up to Israel. Same as the UN. If anything this war showed that only Hezbollah is able to guarantee the security of the area. Both the un and the Lebanese army need to get the fuck out. If the french and the yanks start supporting the Lebanese army, things can get even worse.

      Israeli objectives of stoping bombardment were achieved.

      It’s a disastrous loss. The strategy of holding land was a massive failure, in comparison to a more mobile defence like in 2006.

      That being said Hezbollah is still strong enough to face the Zionists entity. If that was not the case southern Lebanon would turn into a second gaza and there would have been no ceasefire.

      Hopefully all the Lebanese officials who were used by the great powers to pressure Hezbollah will get their due.

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        14 days ago

        I think it did more harm to Israel than the other way. Hezbollah survived the pager attack and mounted an effective defense against a military that by all rights should have steam rolled them. I think it’s much more of a ‘there are no winners in war’ type situation

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          The pager attack was mostly against hospitals and health services, while it did affect many Hezbollah members, the main users of pagers are hospital staff. It did not cause much damage to the organization.

          Hezbollahs goal was to force a ceasefire in gaza, this failed.

          While the Zionists were not able to advance much in lebanon, this defence was extremely costly for Hezbollah, while the Zionists did not suffer much. In 2006, while the Zionists advanced more, Hezbollah loses were 70 times less, and at least 1 Zionist army ended up encircled. Ready to be slaughtered.

          The silver lining is that the reason for the ceasefire was due to betrayal from other Lebanese factions, not to a defeat in the field.