• errer@lemmy.world
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      10 days ago

      Genuinely curious: how common are security teams for high level executives? This is the only CEO I can recall ever being murdered so it’s not like the threat has been very large (until now maybe)

      • lurch (he/him)@sh.itjust.works
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        In Germany 1977 the RAF killed Jürgen Ponto the director of Dresdner Bank and later Hanns Martin Schleyer, chairman of the German Employers’ Association. In 1989 they also killed the chairman of Deutsche Bank Alfred Herrhausen. However, they also did all sorts of other questionable shit including attacking US outposts. Absolute maniacs, IMO.

  • Bonskreeskreeskree@lemmy.world
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    While funny, this incident has done absolutely nothing to better the healthcare system. If anything it has only highlighted how tone death the media and ruling class are to the issue

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        They’re gonna go ahead and limit them even further a week from now. Nobody is going to do shit about it.

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          That’s the funny thing about popular uprisings - the people are passive, until they are not. A lot of dictators and tyrants thought the people they opressed were weak and malleable, only to get massacred, and their lifeless body paraded through the streets.

          Systemic violence breeds resentment, and unless a few people at the top start pumping the brakes and reverse course, the floodgates will open, just has they have many times before in history.

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          I mean if killing a CEO every week to keep pushing it back a week is the only solution then…

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      Sometimes violence is the spark that brings systemic change. If there isn’t an implicit threat that misbehaviour of the ruling class might result in them being dragged out into the street and shot, then all politics become meaningless, and we might as well relocate ourselves to the slave paddock.

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      Highlighting the issue through all the propaganda isn’t exactly nothing.

      It doesn’t take all that much for the plebs to understand how much they outweigh the ruling class. And that they can end it if they choose to do so.

      The propaganda machine is huge and fickle, it takes a lot of constant work to maintain it. It can crumble quickly if it gets hit or can’t work properly no longer (proper foss media).

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    9 days ago

    Is this what muricans meant by “good guy with a gun” all along? So why did it take a British person the balls to be good?

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      Yeah, this dude will just be replaced with another dude who has a multimillion dollar security detail.

      I get the vibe, but it’s not a real solution until universal healthcare is in place.

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    One CEO died from one private health insurance company, and this CEO wasn’t even a top earner compared to the CEOs of other health insurance companies.

    So…

    • Did the death of this CEO make America consider free healthcare coverage?

    • Did the price for healthcare drop drastically after the CEO was killed?

    • Did any healthcare company get dismantled after the shooting?

    • Did any CEO from any of these healthcare companies get arrested for literally messing with people’s lives?

    • Did anything at all even happen to the healthcare company of the CEO that got shot, or is it still around?

    Shooting that CEO may have been justice… Or at least karma, but let’s not pretend it actually “solved” America’s healthcare crisis. This’ll have a few people in certain high places shit bricks for a minute, but in about a month nobody will be talking about this anymore and then it’s business as usual.

    As for Americans stroking their 2nd amendment, you’d be amazed to learn that you can also get a pistol over here in Europe if you know where to look. But considering this CEO was just sort of standing by himself on the side of the street, he could’ve been stabbed to death if it were Europe. But let’s talk about your guns.

    So…

    • Did the one CEO getting shot somehow flip the ratio of mass murders/school shootings versus people getting shot who deserved it in America?

    • Did this shooting instigate the murder of other deserving CEOs, like all the memes seem to encourage?

    • Did the shooting instigate an armed revolution, even a small one, that justifies the idea of owning a gun to fight oppression?

    Doesn’t seem like one guy getting shot changed much, or that specifically getting shot with a gun has any significant meaning for guns, considering the circumstance of the murder. The kind of person who owns enough guns and ammunition to actually start a revolution of some kind (as many 2a supporters keep telling me what the 2a is supposed to stand for) is a fat, middle aged racist redneck, who calls himself a “proud boy” (with no self awareness whatsoever), measures his masculinity with the weapons he owns, and probably voted for Trump.

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    I mean, can’t even compare, it’s nowhere near yet, but we are definitely fast-tracking to the USA system.

    Step 1: The public sector is underfunded for decade+ bcs various austerity measures and low profit taxes & increasing loopholes. This bleeds not only tech purchasing but workforce too (to either private health sector or completely unrelated sectors with low wages).
    Step 2: Insurance businesses are massively stepping up their offers & are directly buying healthcare providers (with market consolation happening there anyway) to ensure claim cost control.
    Step 3: Make it necessary for everyone to depend on private sector healthcare & have private insurance.

    Luckily the water wars, mass migrations, and other more-or-less-world wars will get us sooner.

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    Not to mention that you are experimenting with a lousy solution that Europeans don’t even need. Because healthcare is normalised in Europe.