No wonder Pelosi liked him.
Fucking of course he did. Jesus christ.
This is why I say that the DNC is fully dead. AOC and the rest of the young progressives in Congress need to just get with Sanders and straight up found a new party. This is so fucking dumb.
I was thinking that Trump was going to be the end of the Republican party, and the Democrats would pick up the slightly reasonable conservative position. Instead Trump made the Democratic party if playing to the right a farce and maybe that’ll end the Democratic party. I’m curious to see where things go. It seems like one of the two have to collapse eventually.
the slightly reasonable conservative position.
A little light genocide. Mild indentured servitude. A judicious amount of crippling poverty. Means tested mass incarceration. Just the right amount of war profiteering. Seasonal witch hunts.
You know, moderate conservatism.
It means the people who can be reasoned with.
I get what you’re saying, but you’re just wrong. I don’t like them either, but your position is arrogant and ignorant.
You forget that financially the DNC strategy is very sound, even lucrative. This can go on for a very long time and things will get worse before they get better. Winning elections is not the objective when money is what fuels the machine.
Hey hey, it’s not fully dead, it just has terminal cancer.
I can’t wait for a new left party.
Founding a new party would make them Jill Stein. Nobody wants more Jill Stein.
Those of you with Dem congressmen, write in and tell them you want AOC. They’re the ones responsible for this shit. Don’t make dumb threats about the general, but you can absolutely consider primaries. Your vote goes farther in the primary. That’s where the difference can be made.
He says, after the Dems just had a presidential candidate that did not even run in the primaries.
No, a new party is 100% the way to go, though it shouldn’t be hostile to the dems, e.g. not running for president until they have more congressman and senators then the Dems to avoid splitting the vote.
I would straight up call it “the New Democratic Party” or similar. I wouldn’t even necessarily try to make a massive shift towards the progressive direction. Instead, design it so that it would be very easy for existing Democratic politicians to jump ship to the new party. Make it an equally large tent, and just serve as a one-to-one replacement of the existing party. Once the Old Democratic Party is dead and buried, then debates can be had about what direction to move the party politically. Instead, the main change would be structural reforms, reforms that would serve to allow the party to move in new ideological directions in the future.
I would make the New Democratic Party like the old one, except with a few key structural reforms that will prevent the dysfunction of the Old Democratic Party. Some possible reforms I can think of:
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No politician may run under the New Democratic Party banner while accepting corporate campaign dollars.
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Every nominee must have a full and competitive primary every single cycle, regardless of incumbency.
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Any party leader that holds a leadership role during a losing election will be ineligible to serve in party leadership for the next ten years. (True electoral accountability among leadership.)
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No system of committee appointments or positions within the party may be assigned based on seniority. Every position from top to bottom must be competitive. This is the DEMOCRATIC party. We don’t do inherited royalty here.
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Various reforms to greatly diminish the power of political consultants.
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A vice president is ineligible to be the party’s presidential nominee for at least 8 years after the end of their VP term. (Kill off the “it’s their turn” idea once and for all.)
In other words, in software terms, this would be a hard fork of the Democratic Party. It wouldn’t be an entirely new party that has to build a completely new base and tradition from scratch. It would simply be a new version of the existing party built with a few crucial reforms that will prevent the kind of sicknesses that currently plague the existing Old Democratic Party. The actual formal legal structure of the party would be entirely new, but it would be designed so that any existing Democratic politician could easily jump ship to the new version as long as they’re willing to agree with these few crucial structural reforms. It would essentially be stealing the party right out from under the existing DNC.
Every nominee must have a full and competitive primary every single cycle, regardless of incumbency.
What happens if a given seat doesn’t actually have primary competitors? Do we just assign someone by lottery?
I mean sure, if no one actually wants to run, that’s fine. What needs to end is the immolation of anyone’s career that dares to run against an incumbent. Primarying an incumbent is career suicide in the Democratic party. You better hope you win, because if you don’t pull off a miracle, you will be thrown out of the party. Running against incumbents and putting them through their laces should be encouraged. We want a party that is a political survivor of the fittest.
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Money. You need the DNC money. It’s easier than more fundraising. Like activating voters instead of switching them. Make your life easier.
The importance of money is greatly exaggerated. I think it’s clear by now that there is such a thing as saturation when it comes to political ad spending. By the time you’ve already spent $500 million to bombard the eyeballs in everyone in the country, what good does the next $500 million really do? Democrats managed to outspend Republicans in both 2024 and 2016. Dems collect way more money than they need and then waste most of it.
Don’t disagree. But splitting the party AND having the uphill battle of raising against both sides… Ross Perot didn’t do it the Bernie way…
Ahhh, never mind. I had a strange idea that clinging to the carcass of the democratic party failed. No idea where I got that from. Looking forward to all the improvements the next 4 years will bring the US, since DNC money made life easier.
🤷 yeah… been thinking through solutions for 30 yrs now… hmu when u got this
I kinda solved it at birth by not being born in the US, but I wish you good luck.
You’re only Jill Stein if you don’t actually try to form a real political party. Such a new party would actually attempt to be a real party, gunning for seats up and down the ballot in every election. The Greens just grift at the top of the ticket every four years.
Phew, can you imagine these guys winning the presidency?
Wait… they’re the good ones!?
They are mostly corporate neoliberal centrists. There are very few actual liberals or progressives left in the Democratic Party. They can’t deliver on any meaningful legislation because it always gets shot down by the Republicans or even their own party.
That’s why Pelosi chose them, specially over AOC. She’s the other side of the US oligarchy, the one that’s ok with the slice of cake they have now and don’t want to push the US into a complete dictatorship just to try to get more. She’s one of the people in the democratic party that’s most abusing federal insider trading and conflicts of interests.
Seriously. She’s just a smarter oligarch than Trump. She’s smart enough to realize that keeping a flawed and corrupt democracy is better than no democracy at all. She realizes there’s no real point in having wealth if you and yours have to live in some totalitarian shithole. And also, wealth tends to be very vulnerable to arbitrary confiscation in authoritarian regimes. Trump is an oligarch, but he’s just stupid and prideful enough to think that he and his will always remain at the peak of the pyramid, and that autocracy will work in his favor.
She’s smart enough to realize that keeping a flawed and corrupt democracy is better than no democracy at all.
Playing Jenga with my democracy, smugly certain I won’t be the one who pulls the last block.
She’s one of the ones we need to eat imo
He is smart in that sense. He will be dead and gone. If he ever did love anyone he’ll be sure to tell them fuck you, too, because the man hasn’t felt joy since maybe being a small child.
She is smart enough to make sure the democracy remains flawed and corrupt.
The fact that we need to check for a D or R next to this person’s record just tells you that emphatically the two parties lines have been increasingly blurred.
Pelosi and all other geriatric politicians need to retire
more like these scammers should be jailed. only good thing that trump would do in his presidency is to send doj after them, but pelosi might already have made a deal with him.
He’s also recently announced that he’s undergoing chemotherapy for esophagus cancer, which has a very low survival rate. It’s bad enough that the DNC will only allow corrupt geriatrics to hold the levers of power, but could they at least have found one that wasn’t actively dying?
Esophageal cancer only has a very low survival rate in the late stages. If caught early it’s about 50%
In general, the prognosis of esophageal cancer is quite poor, because most patients present with advanced disease. By the time the first symptoms (such as difficulty swallowing) appear, the disease has already progressed. The overall five-year survival rate (5YSR) in the United States is around 15%, with most people dying within the first year of diagnosis.
A few days ago, I learned I joined the ranks of millions of Americans. I have cancer of the esophagus. It was a surprise because, except for some intermittent abdominal aches and pains, I had no symptoms.
So, I’m not a doctor, but it sounds like he’s showing early symptoms, he only has a 15% or living more than 5 years, and he’s more likely than not to die within the next year. But even if you’re right, a 74-year-old, who is undergoing chemotherapy and has a coin-flip chance of survival, is leading one of the most important committees in Congress.
I’m not trying to be cruel to the guy; cancer sucks and it’s awful he’s going through this. But given how narrow the Republican lead is in the House, it’s irresponsible to have him just stay in Congress at all, since he might miss crucial votes. The Oversight Committee is going to be incredibly important for investigating the Trump administration, and having the top Democrat on the panel be a man going through serious health issues is insane.
“irresponsible you say? 😏” - Dem leadership
Ah, so if you catch it early it’s a coin flip? Nice.
That’s pretty good for cancer
We can thank Nancy Pelosi and her boomer wisdom for this.
The fewer boomers in Congress, the better.
Is she even a boomer or silent generation? Not sure about her exact age but I think Hitler was winning the war when she was born.
Boomer is a state of mind.
At this point, I’d say on planet earth.
This is coming from someone dealing with their boomer parents right now.
The new and improved democratic party is back in business everyone!
🌎👩🏼🚀🔫👩🏼🚀
Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.
Sounds like a perfect match for that shithead pelosi.
Eat my ass Nancy Pelosi
I hope she trips again, and this time, never gets up again.
It should be illegal to own stocks as a Senator.
Honestly, at this point we just need to dissolve the US in its entirety. I no longer believe it can be saved. We need to grant all 50 states full independence. They can then come back together and form whatever new nation or nations they want. The existing union is broken beyond all repair. It can no longer be salvaged.
What actually happens if the Union splits is that corporate interests start buying states. If you think we live in a cyberpunk dystopia now, just imagine what would happen if Amazon owned Mississippi through Georgia.
Well, they can be responsible for their own sins. It’s called personal responsibility. Give all 50 states independence. If some states choose to become the next Belarus, that’s on them. That’s what independence means - responsibility for your own salvation or damnation.
None of the 50 states currently have a standing military. What if those corporate interests don’t take no for an answer, and decide to hire private military contractors to conquer it by force? With the collapse of the U.S. military, there’ll be plenty of mercenaries available. What if, after consolidating their power in their new former U.S. holdings, they decide that they want more and push for expansion? At that point, the corporations can have their own professional armies, made up of former U.S. citizens, fight against the remaining “independent” states.
I’m not saying your initial premise is wrong, but you haven’t fully looked at the consequences of releasing ~43 incredibly weak nations into the world with no treaties or alliances protecting them. It guarantees conflict. You’d have maybe seven states masquerading as the “real United States,” and complete chaos.
Realistically we wouldn’t just do this overnight. You would take a couple of years to work all the details out. Peaceful dissolution of nations has happened many times before. You don’t just shut down the old empire like turning off a light switch. But there would be existing institutions to build off of. The existing state national guards could be expanded to serve as full military units.
As far as doing this Constitutionally, the process is a bit dubious. But really, it doesn’t matter. If you’re at the point of the population being willing to voluntarily dissolve the country, you simply ignore the old constitution entirely. If a president and Congress were elected with a mandate of dissolving the US entirely, they could simply do it and there wouldn’t be anyone to stop them. Hell, you could probably do this just by electing a president on a platform of dissolving the country. Yes, it really wouldn’t be constitutionally valid, but in these kind of situations, that’s not really relevant anymore.
I like where your head is at, but that’s a terrible idea that will just lead to all the Red States going full jihad on “others”
A bit dramatic there.
Why should the Nazi fucks in Texas drag down people trying to live their lives in California or NY?
Biden could premptively pardon every American for choosing to secede if they want to and we can just end it now with no repercussions or violence.
Biden could…
He won’t.
Right? It’s fully within Biden’s power to stop Trump from taking office because he has a duty to protect the constitution.
But he would need a spine for that.
That would mean helping the American population, and that isn’t good for corporate interests, so “Sorry Jack, I did all I could, I pardoned my son for his crack addiction!”
ETFs should be fine, individual stocks not.
And even ETF purchases and sales should be declared a week in advance or sth.
I like the idea you’re going for but it’s not sufficient.
- ETFs can have narrow holdings, or be actively managed
- other investments like mutual funds can have wide holdings and be passively managed
- an appropriate trust can take the person out of decision making for his holding without giving them up
An improvement on my original idea then:
A congressional trust that any representative can pay into, that is only allowed to invest in wide US-based index funds (or it could build its own index fund) or US bonds, etc. Basically: Allow them to invest in the future of the country they’re managing. Don’t limit it to only politicians, either. Let everyone invest if they want.
Shame she wasn’t at home with her husband.
So, they meet the qualifications. Got it.
Dems do insider trading, Reps do rape. Nice people.
And both of them fuck you over and over.
Let’s be fair here. Reps do both insider trading and rape.
They call it “just business” and “she wanted it”
BuT iT wAs HiS tUrN!
You know I thought it was low effort cringe when I first heard “demacrips and rebloodpicans” in a body count song, but Im starting to like it more by the day
On top of being 74 and one month fresh off a throat cancer diagnosis…
Edit:
He announced it the day after he won the election, it would be a huge coincidence if that’s the day he received, he more likely just his it from voters…
Fucking hope motherfucker dies screaming. The Democratic Party is done.
So an unsurprising pick for the “good” party.
Would you people be done with this group of inept septuagenarians called the DNC. Pluck out a liberal from 30-40 years ago and show them everything their going to lose and they would puke in their mouth. It’s the same people that have virtually given our government away since Reagan. They fucking suck at this, be done with the DNC and don’t give me any two party bullshit. What you have is one party where they both desperately drive you into the others arms. There won’t be a two party system moving forward. Mark my words, we are done with free and fair elections.
Pluck out a liberal from 30-40 years ago and show them everything their going to lose and they would puke in their mouth.
Those liberals are still running things.
I would describe it differently. They aren’t inept, and they are skilled at getting exactly what they’ve gotten. Their system is working exactly as they hoped it would.
I don’t give them that much fucking credit. I do believe they are cretins but I also believe they are really bad at what they do.
