I fail these fucking things every time. What is the correct answer supposed to be? I assume people are supposed to get it wrong in some specific way?
Only the ones that are mostly filled. The ones where it pokes just a little bit, you can select or you could skip, it shouldn’t really matter.
A lot of times it ‘fails’ you on purpose to get more training data. If you pass the first check then it knows you’re human, but gives you a second check with data its less sure about, to gather human responses. Thats why the second one usually has a bunch of pictures that then fade out to more pictures once you select them.
It shouldn’t be my responsibility to train their stupid software. Fuck the Internet. I miss 2007 Internet with Geocities, angelfire, xanga, Live journal and Myspace. Back in the day I had like 10 favorite sites I would visit daily. Now, the whole freaking Internet is delivered through maybe 4 apps owned by billionaires that actively want to harm us for selfish gain. I’m sure it was bad back then too, but at least we didn’t funnel the entire Internet through a handful of private companies.
smartphone apps suck (except some, like lemmy)
basically if it’s not on github, i’m not installing it
Sometimes mine is like 15 attempts and then it says congrats you’re a robot
I have noticed that the chances of success increase if one “forgets” the ever so slightly in squares or things like bicycle handlebars.
I get the impression that perfectionists have to purposefully make mistakes to count as humans in these things.
I now take a rapid fire who cares if it’s wrong approach to these. If I bother at all…
I suck at these, apparently. I especially hate the motorcycles, but this goes for almost anything. Do I select the tile with just some wheel in it? Is the wheel a motorcycle too? What about the rider, are they the motorcycle? I mean, when a bike passes you on the road, you don’t say “I got passed by a motorcycle and its rider”. What about the pole the traffic light is on, does that count as part of the traffic light? I end up doing them for like ten minutes until my wife comes over and gets it first try.
do motorbikes and mopeds count as motorcycles?
They do but shouldn’t. I had a captcha scooter recently.
Note: They didn’t ask me to find the “scooter” squares.
Scooters are motorcycles by most definitions (and afaik motorbike is just the british term?)
Huh, I’m not sure I agree, as least in American English. If course there are similarities though.
Highly recommend Buster extension. You click on it and it uses the audio version and solves it for you. Works like 95% of the time.
Ah, so we can now use an automated robotic script to prove we’re human? :)
Relevant: https://novehiclesinthepark.com/
That was interesting, and l liked the one it links to at the end, Staying Alive, even better.
I find this to be wildly flawed, as the soul question defines that one choice requires “soul death” but in no way implies what that means. Without understanding the variable of what this post-soul death defreezing looks like, there is no valid position to take.
I agree, but this is a fun thought exercise, not a scientific questionnaire. If you are convinced that your soul is you or your brain is you then you’ll answer differently. I picked soul death freeze, which was the only answer I deviated from the norm.
We have to make decisions based on incomplete, flawed, or outright misinformation regularly. But yeah I just enjoyed it as a bit of fun.
If you can freeze, kill your soul, and then still wake up again, we have instantly invalidated the working definition of soul they are trying to use. If they want to redefine the understanding of “soul” that’s fine, or if they want to bring the entire concept into question that is also fine, but by explicitly stating the material nature of one while contradicting the function of a soul as understood invalidates the question.
Very good point, conceded.
If I protect the body it’s “why does the soul need a body” and if I don’t protect the body it’s “how does reconstructing the body make sure the soul comes with it” it’s a catch-22 is what it is.
Did it say anything about needing a soul to survive?
It doesn’t define what a body without a soul is at all. If we are to presume a soul exists, as the question instructs us to, then we need the variable information of what those without souls who are unfrozen become. It feels like they’re forcing assumptions where no justification for said assumptions are made.
Yeah, i think the point hinges on the various interpretations of the soul. For example, the Catholic concept where the soul is not necessarily tied to the experience of consciousness vs other conceptualizations where it is. The inclusion is just odd. Maybe it’s supposed to be an exploration of how statistics vary between this interpretations or lack there of.
But how often must we make decisions based on incomplete information in our lives? Usually not such serious ones though. It’s not meant to be scientific, I just thought it was fun.
I’m fine with incomplete information, but they presented conflicting information, at least in my eyes.
By defining the “soul” as we understand it in common usage, the very concept of “soul death” is only comparable to actual death, so by stating that people do live without them, they’re effectively invalidating the idea of a soul as understood in the first place.
Let me be clear, I understand the point they are trying to make, and I understand that this very sticking point is the crux of the question. But I still feel they are invalidating their own question by acknowledging folks do wake up post-“soul death.”
It’s just meant to be a thought exercise.
They’re certainly exercising thought
It’s weird, I followed the instructions too closely opposed to basing it on emotional response. Not sure whether i would answer differently responding emotionally. I’m only in 7% agreement with the sample population lol!
I find the statistics mildly disturbing on the last query.
Yeah the last question was the only one I deviated from the majority on.
To be fair, you also don’t get passed by a carbio and its head(s)
It says pick all squares that contain street light so it counts because it contains part of a street light. I get these wrong like 50 percent of the time so IDK.
But you know who doesn’t get these wrong? Bots!
(Source: experimented with Skyvern)
Yeah, because these aren’t to stop bots. They’re to train bots.
I used to do this but have learned (like a fucking machine) that its best not to as that gives me a better success rate.
Good thing self-driving cars were trained on your data!
(Flashback to that Will Smith movie…)
Flashback to that Will Smith movie…
I fail to see the connection between self-driving car data and Will Smith blasting aliens with a tiny gun.
It was oblique.
The robot deciding to save the protagonist vs the girl based on algorithms/statistics, compared with self-driving cars deciding how to react at traffic lights (and save you or not) because they learnt from your decisions in captchas.
Or… you got it right but they take the chance and ask again to grab info about how you solve some more.
Overthinking is a sign of not being a bot
sleep(10);
print(“You might be right.”)
Depending on the language, that might only sleep for 10 milliseconds, outing you as bot for sure.
Got me the first time I was writing a bash script, sleep(1000)… Why is this not working???
It’s based on whatever the majority of humans using captcha say. They ask multiple question on the captcha. Some are testing you on. Some they don’t know and give to multiple people to figure out which boxes should be selected
Ok. So is there enough streetlight in the square?
Should be yes, but the human is only interested in getting passed the prompt, not with accuracy so it’s no. Which I’m pretty sure fucks with their AI training, but who cares.
If the majority of those given that specifc question say so, then yes
If the majority given it say no, then no
There’s no predefined answer here
One of creators of the captchas said in an interview that they themselves were never sure about the edges and if they should include it or not
Audio captcha -> open-source* speech-to-text -> cursor inserts the captcha for me, w/o an extra dedicated CAPTCHA add on some of the corresponding potential hassles
(Closed-source superwhisper + Keyboard Maestro also make this a breeze on Mac :) )
* ggerganov/ whisper.cpp - Port of OpenAI’s Whisper model in C/C++
Audio CAPTCHA is a closed tab from me dawg. What do they think, I’m using a desktop computer at home like it’s the 90’s?
It takes longer than doing it manually but I still employ speech to text on mobile 🙂
Since superwhisper uses some config (AVAudioSession?) that doesn’t interrupt media playback, it records even while the CAPTCHA speaks.
I’ve found that if its only the tiniest bit then not to click. U also gotta account for the object hitboxes being rectangular. I have been trained by a machine in how to convince the machine I am human by lieing to it thus training the machine more wrong. A perfect case of misalignment lol.
It really does not matter is what I learned, I just click whatever I see in 1 second and that is it. I will have to redo some, but I always had to do that. So I stopped wasting any time.
I always thought street lights ≠ traffic lights?
Yeah, that’s just the comic author
Gaaah! Wait! What’s the answer?? Sometimes I click that square, but other random times I don’t.
The answer is the time and decision making, not correct choices.
There are 5 lights.
You’re determining the answer by training Google’s AI
If we’re supposed to be telling the AI what’s right, why do we so often get it “wrong?”
My theory is they have determined you to be a good human, so they want you to do more work for them. The more you “fail” the more work they get out of you.
I’ll do the first one, fail sometimes, do the 2nd (because I can’t rule out a mistake, sometimes my attention wanders) if I get 3rd, I grab the url of the site I’m trying to visit and go to Wayback Machine (or just say fuckit and close the tab).
I get them a lot, because I stay on a VPN, and I know bots and script kiddies use VPNs and trigger server defense systems. So I don’t mind doing it every now and then. Lately I’ve been noticing it’s just a checkbox most of the time. Check it spins about 2 seconds says ‘congrats on being a meatbag’ and loads the page. I may be paraphrasing.
Just try to do the worst posible just to pass it but at the same time fuck up the AI mind
These are made so the lowest denominator can pass. Both options usually work.
I’ve had to do 30 captchas in a row on Microsoft services, talk about testing patience lmao
I always pick the lowest possible effort to fill this shit.
Is there a way to resize videos?
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