I need to vent. Mods, if this kind of thing isn’t welcome in this community anymore…oh well. It helped me feel better at least typing my thoughts into the void.

I got married to a wonderful, beautiful woman in 2021 after being together for 5 years. My parents are big cruise fanatics. They go on vacation like this about once every year or two. We both told them before the wedding - because they did this for my brother when he got married - they can get us whatever they want for a wedding gift, just PLEASE no cruises.

And they listened! We got some very nice, very expensive bedsheets that were perfect!

Fast forward a year. I get a call. My parents booked a 4 day cruise to Mexico over the week after Christmas '23. I’m not particularly assertive, but I was offering pushback on it. I got told shit like “you’re getting a free vacation” and “how many opportunities like this are you going to get” and “we tried our best to accommodate you.”

My wife also didn’t want it. Neither of us asked for this. But after a few months of talking about it, both of us agreed: it’s free, let’s give it a fair shake.

Fair shake given. We tried our best to like this. I’m writing this from my cabin docked at Cozumel. We deboarded the ship for 15 minutes and were immediately overwhelmed by the crowd. We turned around, went back to our cabin and are now sleeping the day away. Maybe we’ll hit up the hot tub before everybody comes back. The crowd is too much. The longer I spend on this gargantuan vessel, the smaller it gets.

My brother, his wife, and their two small kids are also here. I think they’re also pretty exhausted. It seems like my parents have gone out of their way to spend time with that foursome. As for me, I only get notifications once they’re already somewhere and I have to catch up. I got a message saying “We’re at Senor Frogs.” I did not get “We’re going to Senor Frogs. Wanna meet up?”

I feel like a piece of shit for not appreciating it. I feel invisible because I didn’t ask for this. And I feel angry because I feel like an afterthought. I feel like I got invited to this because my parents wanted to spend a week with my brother’s kids and I was given a ticket to tag along so I wouldn’t feel left out. I wouldn’t have felt left out by not being invited to something I didn’t want. I wouldn’t feel left out if I had been given the opportunity to say no.

I’m just burnt tf out. I want my house. With my quarter acre. And my neighbor with the stupid subwoofer. I want my bed (that doesn’t rock because it’s on solid ground), my cats, my dog, my plaid pajamas, my cold weather, and my coffee back at home in Oklahoma. I would have rather stayed home and built puzzles with my (also puzzle-loving) wife for a week. We are slow-paced, solitary, almost antisocial creatures. I’m wired differently from my family. And though I feel guilty for being unappreciative of their gesture, I won’t feel ashamed of being different. I didn’t ask to be this way.

Anyway, if you’ve made it this far, thanks for reading my rant. I’m done. We shove off back for the States in an hour or so. We’re over the hill. We’ll be home soon, and I will never do this again.

  • SloppyPuppy@lemmy.world
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    But hey, at least you tried. You said it was 4 days. At least it wasnt one of those 2 weeks cruises.

    You gave it a genuine try and genuinely didnt like it. Tag it as another experience in life you learn from. And thats about it. Next time they invite you just say you tried and you prefer doing something else.

    You can also try to invite them for some activity you like for the next vacation.

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    I live in a cruise tourist city and there’s no fuckin way I’m ever stepping foot on one of those boats. People who go on cruises are not humanity’s finest examples to say the least. When a cruise ship is docked here I simply avoid going downtown.

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      It depends on so many things. I love cruising, and there are a lot of people who are just trying to see new things and spread their minds. There can be a-holes and entitled Karen’s, but that happens regardless of their method of conveyance. I’m trying to: be nice, see sites and sights I’ve only read of, seen photos of, (or never even heard of!), try some new foods, and learn a bit more about people and the world.

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        There are much better ways to accomplish this than taking a cruise…

        The ones exploring my town usually just funnel into the Chinese owned souvenir stores then go back onboard to eat.

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          Depends on your goals. I view it as a sampler pack. “Yeah, this place was interesting, next time I’d like to see…”, or “okay, I’ve seen X, that was okay, turns out I don’t care for…”, etc. I can’t see the world - there’s too much and i don’t have an infinite budget. But in a week you can see multiple cities in multiple countries, without having to live out of a suitcase.

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            You’re not seeing the real place off a cruise ship. Everywhere you stop is catered to tourists.

            Worried about budget? Go to Germany and get the monthly rail pass. Way cheaper than a cruise and on your own schedule. See actual Germany. Just an example.

            Learn to live out of a suitcase by the way. Well actually backpack because suitcases suck. You don’t need to bring your whole house with you, I just finished a 6 week trip with a 55L backpack and if you learn to pack well you are going to be comfortable. Ultralight community on reddit is pretty good for learning this skill.

            • Mbourgon everywhere@lemmy.world
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              Doesn’t work for my set of circumstances, but I appreciate it. Kudos for doing it in a 55L - I’ve tried it and it’s a bit too tight for me, but I see the draw.

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                Fair. Gear has come a long way in the last few years though if you are unaware. My 55L pack weighs like 800 grams and still has a frame.

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          The only cruises I’d consider are places that aren’t really available without a ship. River cruises seem like a not-so-bad way to travel through the countryside. Same with Alaska, Patagonia and northern Europe. I haven’t seriously looked into it, but the idea of winding through fjords has a certain appeal to me.

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    Honestly every person I’ve met who does the cruise thing has always been kind of off. I think it appeals to a particular personality type which I almost always seem to clash with. It’s people who want the most sterilized form of adventure possible. They want to “see” places, but not feel obligated to explore them or even interact with them. They are so locked into their cultural bubble they go through enormous lengths to bring it with them.

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    Someday in the future, someone will try to pressure you into another cruise, saying that you didn’t have fun because you didn’t go with the “right” people, didn’t do the “right” things or go to the “right” locations, etc. It’ll be up to you to decide what to say to them.

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    This fits into the larger umbrella of parents giving their children things the parents believe their children should want, rather than things that are actually wanted or needed.

    My sister is gay and prefers pants and “men’s” shirts. For years my mom would by my sister dresses and then lay down a guilt trip when my sister didn’t wear the dresses.

    OP, you have every right to resent this. It sounds like your parents “invited” you because they already planned to have your brother along. They may have even been going for a bulk deal.

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    I had to learn a few years ago how to say no. It came after spending years trying to please everyone and always having to come up with excuses for coming up short while feeling like all I did was disappoint people.

    When I met my wife, she was the same. She’d work horrible hours, like closing down a restaurant at 3am and then being there at 9am with about 4 hours of sleep. She’d wake up late, apologize profusely to her boss and drive insanely fast to work. She also had a hard time being at important events like birthdays because “they wouldn’t let me have the day off”

    I taught her, most things in life require little explanation. Instead of saying “can I please have x day off, I need to yadayada”… Say “I’m letting you know ahead of time, I won’t be unavailable on x date.” Nothing further. And if they ask why, simply rephrase “like I said, I won’t be available.” Or “I have something to take care of.” It’s incredibly uncomfortable for them to press on further but if for some reason they do you can refuse to answer by changing the topic or by ignoring them.

    Same with things like being tardy. If you’re already late, then be late. Have your breakfast, get dressed, drive safely. No need to make a bad day worse. When you call to let your boss know you’ll be late, same thing. Maybe offer a small apology, but no excuses. “Hey, my apologies, I’m running late. I’ll be there in 30 minutes or so.” If they say “omg no you can’t be late today how could you do this to me” keep your cool, “I’ll be there as soon as I can.”

    There’s a book called the power of no which I partially read. Highly recommend it. https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/18595404

    Here’s the description

    … a well-placed ‘no’ will not only save you time and trouble—it will save your life.

    “Takes a fresh approach to becoming masterful at using ‘no’ to say ‘yes’ to life.” —Cheryl Richardson, author of The Art of Extreme Self-Care

    “No” is sometimes the hardest word to say. It’s also the most necessary.

    How many times have you heard yourself saying yes to the wrong things—overwhelming requests, bad relationships, time-consuming obligations? How often have you wished you could summon the power to turn them down?

    Drawing on their own stories, as well as feedback from their readers and students, authors James Altucher and Claudia Azula Altucher clearly show that you have the right to say

    • To anything that is hurting you. • To standards that no longer serve you. • To people who drain you of your creativity and expression. • To beliefs that are not true to the real you.

    It’s one thing to say “No,” the authors explain. It’s another thing to have the Power of No. When you do, you will have a stronger sense of what is good for you and the people around you, and you will have a deeper understanding of who you are. Ultimately, you’ll be freed to say a truly powerful “Yes” in your life—one that opens the door to opportunities, abundance, and love.

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    I’m in a similar boat and the most fun I had was hanging around the ship’s bars playing games while everyone else was ashore. That was pretty great; I’d do that again.

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        Is this your first cruise? Because I respect the hell out of people that try things they’re unsure of at least once.

        That’s me with seafood. I’ve tried it a handful of times and have just decided that, hey, it’s expensive and I don’t enjoy it. So that’s enough for me

        • 𝕾𝖕𝖎𝖈𝖞 𝕿𝖚𝖓𝖆@lemmy.worldOP
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          Yes, it is our first. This was something we’d never buy ourselves. If it’s within a 7 hours’ drive, we drive. Outside of that, put me in a 600 mile an hour soda can in the sky.

          I also tried calamari on this cruise and didn’t love it. And I love fish. But not calamari. Now I know that about myself lol At least my mushroom risotto was top notch.

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            calamari

            I’d never cook it for myself as it is a PITA to get right, it’s much more pleasant as ‘salt and pepper squid’ at Chinese takeaways.

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    Some people in the comments are missing the point. You didn’t want something. You told your parents you and your partner didn’t want it. You were given and pressured into it regardless.

    Do not feel awful for not appreciating it. It doesn’t matter why you don’t. Your parents have ignored you completely. Not just you on the cruise, but your wishes in the first place. It doesn’t matter how nice Cozumel is. If you are stressed out from the cruise experience to start with, you won’t be in the mind space to enjoy something else you might have if you were visiting it normally.

    OP, this is not your fault. You have every right to feel angry. You were left out in many ways and guilted into feeling bad about yourself for not enjoying something you upfront said you didn’t want.

    I hope this gives you the ability to stand your ground in the future. Sure, it can be nice to experience new things and find out you like something you never thought you would. But that’s up to you to decide. Whether its about a cruise or something else, only you and your partner should make that decision for yourselves. I hope you call your parents out on this, but if you don’t, I hope you can always say “no” without buckling in the future.

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      This is a very thoughtful response that goes right to the crux of the matter.

      I could not agree more with this sentiment.

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    I went on a free cruise and just felt guilty the whole time because I know how the staff are treated.

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    It might be a bit late for you now, but when everyone else is in port, that’s the best time to be on the ship.

    Get yourself to one of the open decks with some food and a drink, and appreciate the lack of any queues. Get a chair next to the pool and chill out for a while. Take some photos of the views that you wouldn’t otherwise see.

    In short, try to make the most of it while you’re stuck there, and enjoy the quiet time :)

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    Does the cruise ship have ice cream machines? I went on a cruise with my family as a kid down in the Caribbean and the thing I remember the most is all the free ice cream haha. There were three machines on the top deck, one in the middle and one on each end of the ship. But only one (at one end, I don’t remember which) that had strawberry.

    On the last day of the cruise, my brothers and I all had an ice cream cone making competition. We all took turns trying to make our best creation with chocolate and vanilla, and then I had a brilliant idea. If I could get all THREE flavors, surely I’d win it. So I start huffin it to the machine on the other end of the ship, while trying to balance the already tall ice cream cone. I make it, and top it off with a good amount of strawberry. Now I’ve gotta make it back, time is running short for my now dripping stack of ice cream. I’m having to use my other hand to literally hold onto the foot tall tower of ice cream and I maneuver around people to make it back to my brothers.

    Long story short, I fucking did it. I got all three flavors baby! No idea if that got me the win or not, but man, I’ll never forget that realization that, oh shit this might be too much ice cream and now I have to get back to the other side of the ship with it all.

    Edit: but I feel you OP, the excursions onto land were pretty overwhelming. Getting onto land in Cozumel and the other places we stopped and immediately being hounded by locals trying to sell you stuff. That’s probably why I have more memories on the ship than I do from the countries we visited.

    I’m also remembering the fun times playing bingo on the ship. The announcer was friggen awesome and we still quote a few lines from him to this day

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    It sounds like you don’t like crowds. If so, that’s understandable. They can be overwhelming and uncomfortable.

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    I absolutely relate. I’m a cold weather person, I get very angsty and depressed in warmer climates. I also hate traveling, I hate planes and hotels and the whole experience of it. My parents are the opposite. They’re strong warm weather people who enjoy frequently traveling, and when I was younger they would regularly drag me and my brothers on vacation to whatever tropical location they had their eyes on.

    A couple years ago they moved to Florida, and having to travel to Florida every Christmas has been hell. I’m writing this as I’m still there, I can’t bear it. It’s not just the heat, it’s the whole element of traveling and being away from home.

    It’s not that I don’t love my family, I just don’t like being dragged around to absurdly hot climates and sleeping in a bed that isn’t mine.

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    This sort of thing may be the ultimate fun time for them, and they may have just wanted to give you what they see as the ultimate fun time, but it’s not that for you. It’s okay that different people like different recreational things, and sometimes people with their hearts in the right place still need to be reminded of that fact. So, you can be gracious about the gift but keep this writeup.

    When this is over, you can politely thank your parents for the gift and say no more if you want. But if they press the issue and genuinely want to know how you felt about it, if they really want you to be honest, you could tell them what you’ve just told us. If in the future they invite you to another cruise and give you any guff about taking no for an answer, tell them what you told us. You can still express gratitude that they gave you the chance to give this a fair shake, and politely decline repeating the experience. “I tried and it’s just not for me” is a valid takeaway from this, both for you and for them.

    • 𝕾𝖕𝖎𝖈𝖞 𝕿𝖚𝖓𝖆@lemmy.worldOP
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      I think this is the way.

      I’m genuinely mad at them right now because it seems they’ve exerted little effort to spend time with my wife and me…but we’re all adults here. I could have tried a little harder to reach out to them, too (because I just haven’t done a good job of that myself. Projecting, maybe?). And I’d like to have a debriefing with them, but only once I’m on dry land and had more time to cool off. Because right now, I’ve never been so inclined to tell them to fuck off. At least not since my teenage years lol

      But once I’m home and unpacked and I’ve had the chance to wash my laundry, I think I’m going to tell them straight up that while I appreciated the opportunity to give this a fair try to please never do this again. We will have other opportunities to vacation together. Hell, if they want Cozumel, the island has an airport and tickets are only like 400 bucks a pop from OKC. I’d so much rather have flown here and had 3-5 days to experience the island with all it’s quiet holes in the wall and its beaches.

      But cruising? I can’t do this again. And next time, it’s a hard pass. If they insist I come and pay for a ticket, I’m not showing up. I can’t go unheard on this topic again.